Thanks for reply, yeah I have a 308/m21 to put back in the van, ok will have a look for the body plate number and get back to you. So the full hood lining was on every sandman?? The van has a bit of rust needs new sills, rear beaver and front cowling, have another set of doors and I want the sun roof removed, two spots in the gutters and behind the rear wheel arches have a few spots, on a positive note the tail gates appear sound, seams are clean and appears pretty straight. Waiting for a panel beater (this week) to come over and give me an idea on rust repair bill. At this stage before I throw any money at it I could probably wreck it and get my money back and look for a genuine sandman would be prepared to pay up to 6-7000 for one that needs resto.