nie piccy my dad grew up with dalmations, he loved them, they both turned grumpy with old age tho (haha much like the rest of the world i guess) then we have grown up with great danes. hope to get my own when my 2 doggies r no longer with me, which i hope isnt for a long long time to come. got a rotty cross ridgeback and he is a very veyr clever dog. my maremma leaves some for thougth tho! hes not all there, but he was abused and i rescued him at 9months so still has some of those troubles from the start to life. they like crusing in the pano too