These are the rare coloured Sandmans so far to look out for.

**samin8r** · 02-02-2011, 10:04 PM

What about gunmetal grey in a HQ variant? I can't seem to find an original examples anywhere?

**stickthis** · 02-02-2011, 10:11 PM

Byron did you ever talk to the owners of the Overlander conversions? I spoke to them a while back about the shift pattern plate decals etc. I think I gave him your number.

**mauser** · 02-02-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by samin8r

What about gunmetal grey in a HQ variant? I can't seem to find an original examples anywhere?

I remember a mate had a hq prem 20th anniversary in that color in the 80's... very nice when the paint is good.

Mauser

**ozbox** · 02-02-2011, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by samin8r

What about gunmetal grey in a HQ variant? I can't seem to find an original examples anywhere?

phantom grey metalic mark 1 and mark 2 are the names for the colour you are talking about...finding nice shiny pics of them isnt easy..my hq ls350 is pgmk1..not shiny but.

**L31 Sandman** · 02-02-2011, 10:45 PM

A friend of mine has a HZ Wagon Overlander, his old man bought it new I believe!! It currently runs a Fuel injected 5L instead of the old carb version. It may come up forsale soon.

**playwme** · 02-02-2011, 11:31 PM

Any idea how much he'll be chasing for the HZ Overlander? The original press car is still for sale on AusMusCarSales for $50,000. It's the very last ad on the last page so I assume that means it's the oldest, and I remember seeing the same ad a good couple of years ago.

**HK1837** · 03-02-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by samin8r

What about gunmetal grey in a HQ variant? I can't seem to find an original examples anywhere?

3 x definite HQ in 1866 (Gunmetal metallic), and 1 x possible. 1 x 170, 1 x 270 253 and a proper one, a 480 L31 M21. The possible is a 12/73 Acacia Ridge 270, L31 M21. If it wasn't an Acacia Build i'd say it was one of the first Sandmans, but being Acacia Ridge, they have been proven to have broken the "no metallic on Belmonts" rule, so i'll never know.

Overlanders - yes I had an original Haywood HZ 1-tonner Overlander, built from a new HZ BO6 (the only way to get a 308 TH400 in a HJ-HZ 1-tonner). All original HX Overlanders were utes, vans and a possible tonner. Any others are vehicles done as secondhand conversions. There were a few HZ wagons, maybe 2 x statesmans and from what Arthur told me 5 x tonners (possibly only 2 or 3 done from new vehicles) . I do have a breakdown of how many Arthur converted, but there were kits he sold as well.

Jason, they did contact me, can't remember the outcome. Will check.

You wouldn't bother trying to build one today (from a HQ-WB tonner). It'd be heaps easier and cheaper to buy a higher kM VY V8 auto 1-tonner and stick it on a GU Patrol chassis.

**L31 Sandman** · 04-02-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by playwme

Any idea how much he'll be chasing for the HZ Overlander? The original press car is still for sale on AusMusCarSales for $50,000. It's the very last ad on the last page so I assume that means it's the oldest, and I remember seeing the same ad a good couple of years ago.

No, but if it comes up forsale, I will advertise it hear. He won't want to sell it but may have to, maybe his old man will buy it back.

**Absinth** · 05-02-2011, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by ozbox

phantom grey metalic mark 1 and mark 2 are the names for the colour you are talking about...finding nice shiny pics of them isnt easy..my hq ls350 is pgmk1..not shiny but.

Phantom grey metallic was 1971-1972 Greg. Gunmetal grey was 1973-1974.