Is a Sandman still a Samdman?????

[ozbox]

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it's tags are gone???

no.. its just another van and there is no real way to prove that its a genuine unless you have the original purchase papers and log books.

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if the chassis doesn't match???

no ...its identity has been changed and therefore does not correspond numbers wise with its main tag that has the chassis number on it...see question one answer for expansion..

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it has had a body swap???

yes if it retains its tags and chassis numbers and they all match..

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just to expand on what i have said above...
die hard restorers that go to other forums and have seen similar discussions may believe that removing tags and putting them on other bodies is wrong but the fact that the vehicle has a removable body from an independant chassis changes the game a bit..
you could buy a chassis from holden and back then the beaters stamped the original chassis number in it so there was no grief in reregistration...
you could also buy a body shell which would come with tags stating it was a gm replacement but again these were launched for ease of reregistration or whatever.
just a big meccano set...:Flower:

[wbute]

I have my opinion on chassis numbers which is much the same as Absinth. I think it adds to the value of a van/ute if they match but it isnt the be all and end all to their identity. However if you say that then it opens the whole can of worms as to the sale of tags on their own. I dont agree with that at all. So i suppose that means that you need the correct chassis to be 100% legit. So....... where do you stand if your chassis is blank? In the same position as any sandmans that have had a chassis replacement and restamp that the owners are unaware of really. There must be heaps of them about.
Owners books and full history to me is the most reliable and therefore any vans/utes with that are the most valuable by a country mile.

[HZSandman]

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it's tags are gone???

Yep, if it was a Sandman it is still a Sandman without the tags. It may be harder to prove that's all. E.G. I buy a Sandman brand new, have all the purchase documentation photos of my pride and joy, etc then someone steals the car and it is recovered minus the tags. It is still a Sandman, but not worth as much. Even the insurance company will pay out some of the value based on the fact that is harder to prove it is genuine and therefore not worth as much to others. I know I would not buy a legit Sandman without the tags even if I could say yes it is still a Sandman.

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if the chassis doesn't match???

Yes...As above. It has just got a new or second hand replacement part. Still would not buy it. Well Maybe :Chin:

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it has had a body swap???

Uncommitted. If it retains its tags and chassis numbers and they all match.. But to do this the tags must have first been removed from the previous body. Actually I don't know about this one. If just the tags were swapped and every other part was from the donor vehicle I would say no. Not sure I have a definite answer on this one. I know I would feel duped if I bought a car only to find out the tags did not belong to it.

[stickthis]

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it's tags are gone???
No. Tags and chassis package together are the ID for the "sandman" No tags = Mockup

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if the chassis doesn't match???
No. The whole car in my eyes is not a sandman. The tages are a sandman yes. But the tags could be put onto any other van. Does that make that van a sandman??
So the various sets of sandman tags I have here. Does that mean I own several sandmans as soon as I bolt them onto a new body?? (they never will be btw)

Is a Sandman still a Sandman if it has had a body swap???
Yes. the "sandman" is in the tags and chassis package. Aslong as its done right and to right series and plant build.