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    If you look again at the red van you will see it has inertia reel seat belts fitted so the large opening console is correct. These were an option on Sandman and the Kingswood armrests were standard fitment on Belmont Sandman.

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    I doubt very much you could option inertia reels on HQ Sandman as you certainly couldn't on HJ-HZ. 1974 HJ commercials were fixed seatbelts (no optional inertia reels), 1975 they were standard as inertia reels.

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    Yeah... The kingswood armreast were fitted to all HQ Belmont Sandmans.

    I thought the ones you see were just an improvement made by owners throughout its life...

    Anyone own one from new???


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    HQ commercials don't even have the holes in the body for intertia reels. 1974 plated HJ have them but they are filled with grey body putty.

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    Thanks Byron,

    I'm sure you are right on the inertia seatbelts. I just dont have any pictures of a HQ Belmont Sandman Panelvan interier to work from. They all seem to be different in configurations. The utes are mostly Kingswood based so not much of a reference.

    Armrests on a Belmont van are a new one to me.

    Do you have any photo's of an interier on a complete one?
    Does the tailgate have a belmont badge as well as the V8 one?

    haha I guess I have a few questions... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    HQ commercials don't even have the holes in the body for intertia reels. 1974 plated HJ have them but they are filled with grey body putty.
    byron hq commercial ran the seat belt holes at the bottom of the pillar not half way up so putting car type belts in was a straight bolt up except for hq coupe..

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    This is an LS Monaro brochure pic but it appears Holden wasn't too concerned about which seatbelt/console combination they fitted. The LS appears to have inertia rell seatbelts but hase a belt buckle storage console.....



    Also take note of the console front lid and shifter surround.... fully chromed with the plastic woodgrain insert panels fitted over the chromed section. You have to wonder how Rare Spares decided a black border was correct??????
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    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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    Funny how the Chestnut interier ones all have the black inertia consoles...

    How the fw%^k did HJ ute/vans pre-75 find their floppy bits with a full console that had an armrest????? Must of had stalks.

    I would of thought as a run-out-model toe-in-the-water sports commercial they would of used everything from the '74 GTS/4 bin. That would of included the black fish-scale dash facia and console lid as well as the consoles. The Kingswood utes would of looked fairly identical to them with the same door trims and armrests.

    Were the commericals the only HQ range without inertia seatbelts in '74 that had full floor consoles? I thought Belmont/Kingswoods either got the half-console or a bench seat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ozbox View Post
    byron hq commercial ran the seat belt holes at the bottom of the pillar not half way up so putting car type belts in was a straight bolt up except for hq coupe..
    I know, but you couldn't order retractables on HQ commercials. Was not available until 1/1/75 in HJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AN5590 View Post
    Yep no doubt about the vinyl floor as I removed it to put the carpet in, it still has the original vinyl floor under the rear part of the console. Will be interested to see what Byron can add to this one as well as the console lid etc. The dash is fishscale but not chrome, I think the finish was called gunmetal - a grey/black type finish, dash also has the clock in case that indicates anything different.

    Also in terms of the seat belts in they used to have black plastic covers over the buckles but these disintergrated years ago.
    HQ Belmont XX7, and from what I can tell HJ HOLDEN XX7 up until 1/7/75 had floor mats. If carpet was optioned it was dealer fitted. In HJ, carpet was mandatory with buckets except it would appear on XX7.

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    The "one owner???" Kingswood HQ ute on Shannons has the floor mats and the inertia console without seatbelt stalks.

    http://www.shannons.com.au/pages/auc...Z9B71E96&num=3

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    thanks for the info Byron.. :-)

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