HQ Sandman - Consoles

[HK1837]

It would appear that way. As far as I know none or only very early had the shiny chrome finish, and this was quickly changed so part number wouldn't change and no spare parts of it would be sold. This makes sense too as this is how early HJ were ie all other models used same fascia as GTS, even Premier and LS in HJ.

I've actually got what I think is a late HJ or HX black fascia here somewhere, I should get you to repair it and keep it for reference. Would be good to get a whole set of pictures together of all types. I have a NOS SL/E one here, which could be used for LE example too. The silver HJ dash in my Premier is perfect. Do others have perfect examples of the rest?

15.292 lists LID ASSEMBLY:

2816801 Belmont, Kingswood and Monaro exc SS and XV4/XW8
2816805 Prem, Statesman & LS plus GTS and SS although I suspect there is some superceding going on here as SS/XV4/XW8 listed on a different line to GTS and Prem/LS/Statesman different line again.

Yep, above has superceding going on. 11/71 15.292 shows:

2816801 Kingswood and Monaro
2816800 Prem, Statesman & LS
2816805 GTS.


The only mention of Sandman is in 15.293 COVER - Ash tray aperture 2829910. Same p/n as Prem and Statesman when ashtray in armrest, and also 4 door GTS with power windows. I suspect there is superceding here too, need a 1974 cattledog to check Sandman out.

11/71 15.293 shows the same breakup as for 15.292:

2817277 - Cover manual console Kingswood and Monaro
2816964 - Cover manual console Premier, LS, Deville
2816965 - Cover manual console GTS

Spot on. Keep it a secret!

[Absinth]

It would appear that way. As far as I know none or only very early had the shiny chrome finish, and this was quickly changed so part number wouldn't change and no spare parts of it would be sold. This makes sense too as this is how early HJ were ie all other models used same fascia as GTS, even Premier and LS in HJ.

I am fairly confident the chrome dash was used in early 71 GTS, I have seen an early brochure that the fascia is bright chrome. There is also the fact that the Torana GTX prototype had a bright chrome fishscale dash fascia.

I've actually got what I think is a late HJ or HX black fascia here somewhere, I should get you to repair it and keep it for reference.

Easy to tell which model it is. HJ fascia will either have the blanking piece intact over the left vent hole or there will be evidence of it being cut out for forced air ventilation. IE saw marks around the edges. HX fascia's were moulded with an open vent hole so will have a factory moulded appearance. Happy to repair yours for you, what does it need repaired?

15.292 lists LID ASSEMBLY:

2816801 Belmont, Kingswood and Monaro exc SS and XV4/XW8
2816805 Prem, Statesman & LS plus GTS and SS although I suspect there is some superceding going on here as SS/XV4/XW8 listed on a different line to GTS and Prem/LS/Statesman different line again.

Yep, above has superceding going on. 11/71 15.292 shows:

2816801 Kingswood and Monaro
2816800 Prem, Statesman & LS
2816805 GTS.

Makes sense. The same chrome lid and auto shifter surround was used through to HZ so were still readily available. HJ to HZ had the black metal insert panels so they too were carry on from HQ. HJ to HZ used a different pattern woodgrain so wouldn't match HQ Premier, LS or Statesman. HJ used the same shifter surrounds as HQ so were most likely still available in 77 also.

[wbute]

Why did they pull out of the GTR-X. Stupid bean counters!

[HK1837]

Easy to tell which model it is. HJ fascia will either have the blanking piece intact over the left vent hole or there will be evidence of it being cut out for forced air ventilation. IE saw marks around the edges. HX fascia's were moulded with an open vent hole so will have a factory moulded appearance. Happy to repair yours for you, what does it need.

Finally found it in the shed. It is black, has the centre vent moulded and idiot lights say PARK BRAKE and a blue high beam symbol. So looks like a HX one. Clock is still in place and is a white needle with a blue hand. Has radio cutout, holes drilled for 3 x switches where HZ RTS badge would be and a raised RTS badge under the idiot lights. I think it also has a side/lower tab broken also and HQ Kingswood badge added however it is on the intermittent wiper blank plate. Looks pretty good otherwise. Probably would be good to repair but it really only belongs to HX Belmont, HOLDEN or Kingswood except Sandman. Most likely from a Country pack Kingswood, Ambulance van or ute. Are the silver painted ones the same except for the paint? As it is obviously from a forced air HX it most likely is Kingswood I suppose.

[Absinth]

Byron, the blue high beam idiot light makes it a HJ dash. Interesting that the centre vent hole is moulded.... all the HJ fascia's I have either have the infill panel or signs of it being cut out??? It may be a late HJ change but there should be a part No. change if this were the case. I'll look throught the catalogue listings again when I get a chance.

The blue high beam light identifies HJ unless the idiot lights have been changed, they are missing in a couple of my fascia's.

[HK1837]

OK, must be late HJ HOLDEN, Belmont or Kingswood. Probably HJ Kingswood to have forced air, but it isn't cutout from what I can tell. I'll look closer at it. I've been trying to remember where it came from, and from memory I think it was off my old HJ Kingswood ute which had a factory type 5 dash, it was a later HJ. I must have changed fascias at some stage, probably because of the holes - hassle is it has 3 x holes drilled on the textured section where an RTS badge would be on a HZ, the other damage is on a smooth section (radio cutout). Not sure if that textured bit is the same as a normal HJ-X dash and the whole bit could be plastic welded into this fascia. I'll see if it has a number on the fascia.
I also found the HZ SL/E burr walnut fascia whilst I was looking for it. It is mickey mouse, not even damaged as it had a factory radio. Still has the chrome on edge, and the clock is spot on. Instruments are floating around the shed somewhere too, but they are not from the SL/E but from an old HZ BO6 tonner I used to own. The HJ instruments of the fascia mentioned above are probably stashed somewhere too, I thought I'd found them when searching for the fascia but it was only an LH SLR dash from the SLR5000 I pulled apart a while back.