HQ Sandman Speedo's

**mauser** · 23-03-2011, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by HK1837

Features manual quite clearly says "140MPH (225kM/h) speedo" is a feature change for HQ Sandman. This is on top of U21. I simply assumed it'd be a metric equivalent of the 140MPH speedo.

So the 220kmh speedo is specified as an extra on top of the U21 guages? If you ordered a U21 on a Kingswood/Statesman etc did you get the speedo?

Thanks for answering mate.

Mauser

**Blocker** · 23-03-2011, 09:52 PM

I moved this from the Showroom to Sandman Data sections.

Great thread!

**SNDMN** · 23-03-2011, 10:19 PM

I just took this photo of the speedo out of my 6/74 HQ GTS/4. As you can see it has both KPH/MPH, I haven't seen a KPH only one either.

Good luck on your mission Mauser

**adam perth** · 24-03-2011, 12:27 AM

just checked my 8/74 HQ, its KM/H and MPH.

**Absinth** · 24-03-2011, 01:09 AM

KPH only HQ speedo's were made and I have an original 200kph one in my box of speedo's. I am yet to see a 220kph GTS speedo but that doesn't mean they wern't made.

This is an original 200kph standard speedo than someone has fitted a GTS speedo needle to. Mine is the same as this but has the correct standard needle.

The Sandman brochure shows a standard 120mph/200kph speedo and I have been unsure if this is correct or not...... the HQ GTS brochure shows the 140mph GTS speedo and the SS definately had the standard 120mph speedo. One would assume the Sandman would follow the SS and have a standard speedo with the GTS speedo reserved for GTS cars..... however I have seen several fairly original looking Sandmans with 220kph/140mph speedo's fitted.

But.... my old HQ Sandman van back in 1981 had a standard 200kph/120mph speedo in it... a few months after I sold it to a mate the Tacho crapped itself and the only way we could get a replacement was to buy a complete GTS dash from the wreckers for $150. While changing over the Tacho we noticed the difference in speedo's and fitted the 140mph GTS one from the dash we got from the wreckers.

There is no way to know the speedo in your 35 year old car is the original speedo.... VDO speedo's are dated so there is a possibility a correctly dated speedo is the original but all the GTS speedo's were made by Flexdrive and these aren't dated.

There is also the possibility that one or more plants did or did not fit GTS speedo's in the Sandman..... it has been proven that some plants namely Acacia Ridge did not always follow the rules.

Byron has a HQ Sandman features manual that says the GTS speedo was a feature change so if I had a HQ Sandman now I would happily fit the GTS speedo.

To answer your question Mauser... if the U21 (sports dash) option was ordered on Belmont,Kingswood,Monaro,Premier,Brougham or Statesman then you got the standard 120mph, 120mph/200kph speedo. This only applies to HK,HT,HG and HQ.

**HK1837** · 24-03-2011, 05:48 AM

Features manuals is one of the documents that is rarely wrong.

If you have a speedo with the pciking slip code on it still see what it is. The HQ XX7 production broadcast sheet I have shows QX as the code in box 110 (inner RH guage). Guages are: QW QM QK QX RD

**GNW1974** · 24-03-2011, 08:23 PM

my 4/74 HQ Sandman ute had a 200/120 speedo, I have no reason to believe it wasn't standard. I know it was that cause I took it out one fine day until it was flat out, pretty scary.

**Absinth** · 25-03-2011, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by HK1837

Features manuals is one of the documents that is rarely wrong.

If you have a speedo with the pciking slip code on it still see what it is. The HQ XX7 production broadcast sheet I have shows QX as the code in box 110 (inner RH guage). Guages are: QW QM QK QX RD

What's the fifth gauge?

RD doesn't seem right either... the one I have is part No. 2815737 Amp/Temp to be used prior to ADR 18.... in which case it can't be correct for a Sandman.

I will go through all my speedos and gauges and list what they all are.... at least the ones with the labels on them..