How much to pay for a VERY rusty HZ?

[b-rock-05]

Well i would say do it, i am currently restoring a genuine hq sandman 6/74 308 4 speed, barbados green and the shell was rusted beyond repair,and i paid $6,200,so you could say i paid for the tags chassis and original running gear,then i bought a one owner hq belmont van for the reshell ,body in resonable shape, inside like new and paid $5,700, and im well into it and loving it, i will do most of the mechanical work myself , but will leave the bodywork and paint to the experts, i will post photos soon, so good luck,

[mauser]

Well i would say do it, i am currently restoring a genuine hq sandman 6/74 308 4 speed, barbados green and the shell was rusted beyond repair,and i paid $6,200,so you could say i paid for the tags chassis and original running gear,then i bought a one owner hq belmont van for the reshell ,body in resonable shape, inside like new and paid $5,700, and im well into it and loving it, i will do most of the mechanical work myself , but will leave the bodywork and paint to the experts, i will post photos soon, so good luck,

Good on you for being honest and I'm especially keen to see your photo's of a HQ.

Mauser

[TwoTees]

Welcome Johan,
How much to pay is a very subjective question. You are really only buying the tags hopefully with a matching chassis along with any running gear that may be good and looking for another body. To some that is worth paying good money and there would be others that wouldn't. How bad do you want a Sandman and how much are you prepared to do to save dollars.

About the re-body thing, have a read of this thread.

http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...ghlight=rebody

Again a subjective question.

Regards, Chris

[HK1837]

Hi everyone, I've been lurking around here for a while now and have to say I'm blown away by the passion all you guy's have for your Sandmans (Or anyone else's!)

So here's the thing: I've found what I'm pretty sure is a genuine HZ Sandman Pano, original 308, auto. Brown interior. Currently white but the original colour is Blue 567-30525.

The shell is well and truly stuffed, holes thru sides/gutters, there's more gone from the sills than there is left!

The interior is pretty good though, all original, the whole front is also usable. Original 308 that apparently runs. Original wheels.

SO: How much would you pay for it? (Assuming it is a Sandy and allowing for another shell) (I will do most of the work myself)

I'd also welcome advice on the whole Re-shell thing: Will it still be considered a genuine Sandy when done?

Send me the ID details before yopu go any further. Auto Sandmans are VERY rare, in fact TH400 are very rare outside of vehicles where they were standard. The option cost in some cases was close to an additional 10% on the original price!

[ozbox]

if you have read the rebody thread you know my opinion on reshells...

as for price...you pay what your budget will allow.:knockout:
.if you are comfortable with money then cost is not the factor and its passion that will determine the price..

[mook]

HK, doesn't mean that you still can't fake one. Especially if you know the secrets..

[ambientgoat]

HK, doesn't mean that you still can't fake one. Especially if you know the secrets..

Mook has upgraded the opening of a can of worms into a bucket of worms.

Johan, if it's the car you want, and if it needs a new shell to save it from becoming scrap I say go for it. It's not like you can walk into the dealership and order one up.

(I don't see people complaining to much about fiberglass shells for hot-rods and fj40s, hell, if I could buy a new shell like you can for a muscle car in the states I wouldn't be thinking too long about that decision.)

What it's worth will be somewhere between what you want to pay and what the buyer wants for it.

[stickthis]

I agree with OZbox.

Pay what its worth to you. Dont listen to what people think. Its worth what you think it is to you. =)

[HK1837]

HK, doesn't mean that you still can't fake one. Especially if you know the secrets..

True, but i'm not about to publish a how to! Some stuff is not to be published, web or book. Too many lowlife scammers out there that would use the info to sell mocked-up fakes on Ebay and play dumb about the vehicle. Most people here won't get caught but it is still a major time waste and obscures the "big picture" by muddying what is left of the Sandman pool.

[Johan]

Thanks everyone for all the comments and opinions. I'm pretty sure I will go ahead if I can get it for a fair price and it checks out. I need to go back and have a good look at what's actually usable.

HK - Thanks I will send you the pix I have of plates (Need to get em off phone first). I had a look last night and it turns out it was originally 253 4spd. SO yeah - It will need some investigation