all sound good to me, Pity my van wont be ready by then. bummer. there are quite a few pubs and bars around the bay. I'm sure that there will be something that we can all easily get to and park. If we decide on something where there may be limited parks i can always save a safe park with my 4wd at the local, then leave if anyone is planning on driving a van.. hope that makes sense. btw i live at the bay so no drama.