Are you saying the seat seperator didn't have a front mount?
I always thought when someone screwed the console to the floor it was an addition.
The interesting part was I thought HJ was like HX until I looked at the XU3 ute.
Mauser
Are you saying the seat seperator didn't have a front mount?
I always thought when someone screwed the console to the floor it was an addition.
The interesting part was I thought HJ was like HX until I looked at the XU3 ute.
Mauser
“485650 HQ's cant be wrong...”
“You don’t drive a Kingswood, you make love to it. That’s why nuns only drive Toranas.” - Ted Bullpitt
The only HQ seat separators I have seen use the same rear mount as a console and the front has a single screw straight to the floor. The few factory HQ consoles i've seen also have screwed straight to the floor with holes just in front of the shifter. I honestly hadn't taken great notice that HJ and later are different to each other too. Looks like I have some more work to do in this area. The HJ ones I have pictures of are all like the very top one in this thread. HX-WB are like the second picture in all my photos.
Interesting to compare things on the HJ XU3 ute to the HQ van.
I think Paul from the SS site can help with HQ's. Even the early SS HQ had the front console mounts. I owned a '74 HQ Statesman that also had both mounts.
I would think the rear HQ one would be getting especially hard to find. Someone on Ebay has a replica HX/HZ and the rear HJ/HX/HZ mounts but no rear HQ or front HQ/HJ. The HQ SS and GTS/4 replica guys would be eating the few up that would still be around.
Mauser
Last edited by mauser; 15-06-2011 at 09:33 AM.
“485650 HQ's cant be wrong...”
“You don’t drive a Kingswood, you make love to it. That’s why nuns only drive Toranas.” - Ted Bullpitt
Did consoles change that much between early and late HQ that a front console mount became necessary?
I've only ever seen them like the attached photo. This is an original HQ Statesman, original carpet and sound deadening. No front bracket, just has holes in front of the T-bar.
HQ console holes.jpg
Yes it is of the HQ Statesman out the front. It is as I have seen in others too. Mauser's HJ bracket as shown is the same as others HJ's i've seen, and is the same as my reference photo which is from that yellow XX7 van you (Greg) wrecked a while back. All of the HX-WB I have seen look like the second photo with the slots and that ugly hole.
One thing I have never fully deciphered is what had the ugly cable shifter? Was it just HJ-HZ Caprice, LE and SL/E with either TH400 or TH350? Every T-bar M40 or M41 HJ-HZ i've ever had, has had a normal T-bar.
may be plant related byron..hj had rod shift with m41..hx i think had both..hz definately had both...wb had cable only with m38...
I've always believed HQ had no front bracket and screws directly into the floor only and HJ-WB had a bracket. I am not so sure now with what Mauser has raised. Hence I have to check more original vehicles out. There is no doubt over HJ-WB just HQ.
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I thought it may be related to the console style, so those with the Caprice style console used cable? Did WB Statesmans with trimatic use a rod or cable shift?
my hq console screws straight to floor like yours my hj has brackets ... the hj brackets didnt line up when installing a hz console tho ??
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