Gaddy I had a 04 model cross8 ute for 5 years and it was a great ute there were only two problem with it 1st (even though I have 2 sandman's)it was a Holden and 2nd it used as much petrol as the queen Mary . I was never impressed with the auto box it felt sluggish like a trimatic but it's 4x4 ability was a lot better than anyone give them credit for. the kerb weight was around 2000 kg so it's like driving a commodor car around and towing a loaded box trailer of 700 kg all the time