Tail gate badges

**Vombil** · 08-07-2011, 01:12 AM

Holy shite! working fast huh. I wish i could string more than 2 half days together to even start on one of mine. Looks the goods. Very jealous :weights:

**KRUIZ** · 08-07-2011, 01:18 AM

thank you but it helps when you have your own panel shop

**wbute** · 08-07-2011, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by HK1837

Yes, as they were Kingswoods before Sandmans. HQ also got Belmont badge and HJ got HOLDEN.

What I meant was did any Kingswood based sandmans get the kingswood badge? It seems to me the tailgate on Kruizs ute is a kingswood tailgate due to all the extra holes.

Also, badge holes are meaningless really, plenty of people put badges on to "upgrade" there utes/vans. My WB now has a 4.2 litre badge cause I like them. Its on the wrong side because WB had the Kingswood badge on the right hand side of the tailgate.

The other point would be the second most common repair to a Holden ute would be a re-skinned tailgate. Every second person either dropped the tailgate onto the tow ball or backed them into something. Badges could have easily been deleted or put on incorrectly by panel beaters.

**jennie285** · 08-07-2011, 08:29 AM

Love the progress Kruiz...we could do everything but the panel work....(rather Rodney could) which seems to be the most time consuming....look forward to more pics.

J and R

**GTS** · 08-07-2011, 08:37 AM

The original tailgate on my HJ had 2 holes on the right for the 5.0 badge and 2 holes in the centre for the metal HOLDEN badge and no holes on the left side. I got lucky and jagged a HOLDEN badge on ebay last year.

**Rico** · 08-07-2011, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by KRUIZ

thank you but it helps when you have your own panel shop

Ill bet! Looking good mate, love the progress there! Gunna look the goods when shes done!

**HK1837** · 08-07-2011, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by wbute

What I meant was did any Kingswood based sandmans get the kingswood badge? It seems to me the tailgate on Kruizs ute is a kingswood tailgate due to all the extra holes.

Yes, that is what I meant. HQ was a Kingswood with XX7 option so it got Kingswood badges. Same reason HQ Belmont XX7 had Belmont badges and HJ Holden XX7/XU3 got HOLDEN badge. I can't remember if HJ Kingswood XX7/XU3 had a Kingswood badge on the body or not. HOLDEN and engine size badge was deleted on HX and HZ due to the graphics but you could option the engine size badge back again. HX and HZ also had the Holden grille badge deleted and got a Kingswood grille badge (Lion) as the HX and HZ Sandmans were basically a Kingswood.

**adam perth** · 08-07-2011, 03:21 PM

sounds like you won't get a definitive answer on what a 1976 Kingswood XX7 sandman had on the tailgate. and with probably only 10 left, and the tailgate a common damaged thing may be best to

ring Andrew, 0417964070, he has a mint Julip 4/76 Dandy Sandman Kingswood ute the same as yours except L32 M20, and has owned it for 20 years. see what he can remember....

wasn't the yellow HJ ute in the sales brochures with the motorbike on the back a kingswood?, it had the kingswood pillar chrome strip anyway from memory......

**Absinth** · 08-07-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by KRUIZ

thanks for your input but not being smart but this ute has every original panel on it there has never been a panel put on it it had been painted blue when i got it but as you can see by the photos i have stripped it to nothing and every panel has the original mint julip. as i am painting it i am leaving tell tail signs so that i can prove to people that every panel is original. but i would like to know what the badges were as i want to put them back on. the holes in the tail gate have been there from factory as the red oxide is still there

If you are a panel beater than you should be well aware that it is impossible to tell if a panel is the original one on a 35yr old car. Panels replaced early in a cars life with factory replacement panels are impossible to tell from original as they are prepped and painted to match the cars original colour. Plenty of owners over the years could and probably did change or add badges.

HJ Kingswood Sandman had the Kingswood badge in the middle and the 4.2L or 5.0L badge mostly on the drivers side but I have seen them on the passengers side also... (possibly an assembly plant thing?)

Hows that for a definitive anwser Adam???

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Originally Posted by ozbox

its the elusive metal HOLDEN badge unique to hj utes n vans...ebay is your freind..they pop up now and then but are usually quite hard to get.

Not that elusive, I have been stocking up and have 3... one of which is NOS.. gotta love Ebay

Finding them with both mounting pins not broken off is the hard part......... These were fitted to all HJ-HZ Holden utes and panelvans so there really should be heaps around but like fuel caps a lot of people must have removed them...