Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
However, if you really want to up the arm muscles I would suggest that an XD ute without power steering was worse than a holden and worse than both of them is a 4WD 89 model hilux without power steering. It was a tough one in the car park.
Yep! Owned an XF ute with 7's, 84 diesel hilux with 15x8's and a HZ van with 235,s and a small saas wheel. None had power steer and the HZ was probably the best, not great but better than the others.

I am not as young as I was and I don't think I would like to drive one these days with out power steer. Anyone interested in buying your HJ would probably be the same.