Could this be a sandman - Chassis swap

**HK1837** · 25-09-2011, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by wbute

You were right to laugh

So is this a commodore or a patrol

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Unfinishe...#ht_777wt_1156

Hard one as it still retails both chassis and both VIN/chassis numbers. Not sure why you'd use an FJ55 though. A GQ Patrol woul be better.

**playwme** · 25-09-2011, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by HK1837

Not sure why you'd use an FJ55 though.

I'm not sure why you'd use a VN sedan either.

**ozbox** · 02-10-2011, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by TwoTees

I won't continue with the merry go round of I said you said but I will put you straight to yet again an assumption on your behalf.
If my only concern was monetary value I would have just re-stamped the chassis.
If you go back to my introduction post that you so graciously highlighted where I made it clear my van had an incorrect chassis from the start, you will also read that from a young age I always wanted a Sandman. I now believe I have one. Not a 100% sandman but a Sandman. I want to be able to open my bonnet and let other people look at my van and not have some big mouth know it all say "Thats not a Sandman! I read on the sandman site that an mismatch chassis means this van is a HQ!"
When V6HQUTE posted up the joy he was having in finding a Sandman (Albeit the deal fell through) you did exactly that to him. This gave me the motivation to read and seek knowledge to make my own informed opinion and challenge what you claim to set the record straight.
Now I'm sure you will come back about what I just said with some non relevant dribble to make yourself feel bigger . The fact is we are talking about what you claim. Lets just recap what it is you claim.

A sandman is no longer a sandman if the chassis has been swapped!
The vehicle is now the vehicle that was attached to the chassis including it's model designation!
This is law!

Can you keep you responses relevant to the topic please?

My next response to your claims will take some time as snail mail is involved.

is the mailman lost?

**V6HQUTE** · 12-10-2011, 01:26 PM

well i thought id give the bag of worms another stur up lol, heres a situation for you guys, what if you knew of a sandman locally 20years ago that was stripped and turfed, id plates and all, just the chassie remains,you know it was a sandman, but no way to prove, whats it make it now, even if you put another sandman body and tags back on, is it still a sandman? becasue you cant prove its a sandman chassie???wont it just be a sandman body on a different chassie even if it is a sandman chassie

**hainzy** · 12-10-2011, 05:42 PM

**Blocker** · 12-10-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by V6HQUTE

well i thought id give the bag of worms another stur up lol, heres a situation for you guys, what if you knew of a sandman locally 20years ago that was stripped and turfed, id plates and all, just the chassie remains,you know it was a sandman, but no way to prove, whats it make it now, even if you put another sandman body and tags back on, is it still a sandman? becasue you cant prove its a sandman chassie???wont it just be a sandman body on a different chassie even if it is a sandman chassie

The chassis number must match the number on the ADR plate.

**V6HQUTE** · 12-10-2011, 06:43 PM

so without the original tags its no longer a sandman, which means the tags are what determines sandman or not?

**Vombil** · 12-10-2011, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by V6HQUTE

so without the original tags its no longer a sandman, which means the tags are what determines sandman or not?

i reckon we've got it right over here in the west. boys down at the licensing centre go on ADR tags

**ambientgoat** · 12-10-2011, 07:41 PM

If you buy a full original numbers genuine sandman, then during the restoration, the block gets decked and you loose the engine number. You smooth out the chasis and loose the chasis number. Then you find out the painter lost the ID plates while he was takeing rust off the cowl. Is it still a sandman? yes. Is anyone going to listen to your story and pay sandman money if/when you want to sell it? no.