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    There are still replacement rails out there with no number. If you put this in your car and go to register it, it will need a Police issued chassis number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V6HQUTE View Post
    cheers mate, yous can fight it out as much as you like, i own a sandman, at 17, i bet not many can say that, yeah mate when shes done well have to organise a sandman cruze
    I owned a Barbados Green HQ Sandman van at 17. It was a completely original one owner car when I bought it..... was also only a 7 yr old car at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    I owned a Barbados Green HQ Sandman van at 17. It was a completely original one owner car when I bought it..... was also only a 7 yr old car at the time.
    wish i still had it, that arrangement went up s**t creek, and was basiclly told to f off, when old mate found out what it was, in the long run it was a good thing, it was a complete non matching wreck, learnt my leson the hard way

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozbox View Post
    it may be food for thought but it still isnt backing anything you say regarding legal identities...
    as a motor dealer i receive stuff from fair trading regarding cars etc....here is a link to the new securities register
    which clearly states that if you do not use the vin or chassis number you will not get a correct search..it even states
    that number plate or engine numbers are irrelevent to the search which makes the chassis number the identity..this is an
    australian government document for the entire country not just one state..POINT is proven...chassis number is the identity
    of the vehicle..nothing else matters..
    Ozbox,
    That register looks like a great tool and its good to know that vehicle info can be accessed easily, however, If you were to enter the chassis number from my rego papers posted earlier you will receive a HZ panel van as a return not the HQ doner vehicles identity that was used to repair it. It will only give results from RTA records and any encumberances on it. If the RTA or whoever record a vehicle as being X, then that is what you will get returned, X.

    I really don't think I am being understood as to what it is I am actually trying to get across so I will try to explain.

    I agree that the chassis number is the identifier for a vehicle pre the ISOVIN that became mandatory in 1989.

    What I dissagre with is that the identity originally attached to the doner chassis number is carried over when the chassis is installed into another vehicle, and that this is backed up by law.

    What I beleive is when a vehicle is crashed and repaired using a part from another vehicle, that part becomes part of the repaired vehicle.
    The numbers/letters stamped on that part now become the identifier for the repaired vehicle. Just as my rego paper show.

    Alternatively, and what should of happened to my vehicle is..........

    If it was black and white law, why would the RTA let you stamp a line through the old chassis number and then stamp your original number next to it? What this says is that the RTA is happy to delete any identity from the doner and attach your identity to it.

    http://studentweb.usq.edu.au/home/q1...ines/vsi19.pdf
    The very last paragraph.....
    VSI19text.jpg

    What we need to keep in mind here is these laws are put in place to cover all vehicles and to stop re-birthing etc.not to cause HQ to HZ owners hair loss.

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    As an example

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTees View Post

    What I beleive is when a vehicle HZ van is crashedchassis bent and repaired replace chassis using a part from another vehicle HQ ute, that partHQ Ute chassis becomes part of the repaired vehicleHZ Van.
    The numbers/letters stamped on that partHQ Ute Chassis now become the identifier for the repaired vehicleHZ Van. Just as my rego paper show.
    Maybe it's because it's late and the bloody baby is awake and wants to play, but that looks like what Oz was saying.

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    I added in components (in Red) to make it clearer to read. Otherwise it's just a jumble of "this car" "that car" "parts" "captain feathersword".


    This is the bit that had me scratching my head.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTees View Post
    The numbers/letters stamped on that part now become the identifier for the repaired vehicle.

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