Could this be a sandman - Chassis swap

**ozbox** · 13-09-2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Gaddy

And yes twotees I have been watching this thread for a while and am starting to get a little worried about the path it has taken in taking the gloss off Myles s find and his enthusiasm for what he clearly is passionate about!

i dont see any path that has been taken that isnt good..its fantastic that myles is passionate about his "sandman"..
if im the bad man for saving this young fella some money on what would never be a genuine collectible vehicle because of mismatching numbers then so be it..

**Gaddy** · 13-09-2011, 09:26 PM

PG 13 the lurkers I say Oz ! If they don't want to contribute here then they get what they deserve in my world!

**TwoTees** · 13-09-2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by ozbox

im not ramming anything to anyone..except you.
as for disputing my claims i suggest you do some more reading in the correct areas..modified section isnt it coz it isnt modified..pick up a phone and speak to someone like a blue slip registration human and see what they say?
i dont need to produce what i know to be legal as ive been doing cars for 30 years legally buying/selling/dismantling so ive come across it before..
just wondering 2t..why are you so adamant that the chassis number is not the identity?
what else can it be?

I made my opinion in the other thread that Absinth started along with many others. You came in with statements Like......

Originally Posted by ozbox

unless you grind off or find a blank chassis and restamp the chassis number it still will not match the tag....NOT A SANDMAN...
(**** me how many times will i have to type this before people realise wtf im talkin about and get it in their heads that if the numbers dont match between chassis and tag it cannot ever be a sandman again legally)...

and other aggressive statements. I just let you go with it and didn't give to much more thought to it until your latest stunt to HQV6ute in this thread. That was wrong!
I have now put the challenge to you to back these claims up before you do it again.
Being a wrecker for thirty years does not make what you say legally correct. Granted you probably have more knowledge of HQ-WB that any one here but please go to the correct document and point us all to the section that backs up what you are claiming or stop making the claims.

**jennie285** · 13-09-2011, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Gaddy

PG 13 the lurkers I say Oz ! If they don't want to contribute here then they get what they deserve in my world!

Trouble is Gaddy the lurkers are the ones who will stamp miss matching chassis left right and centre, and flog them off to unsuspecting buyers who will think they are getting the ultimate sandman....I think this is what Ozbox is trying to get across.....:Chin:

**playwme** · 13-09-2011, 09:33 PM

Doesn't matter how much you educate people. A scammer will always be able to find a patsy if it looks like a great deal. Plenty of people still don't use the internet at all and wouldn't have a clue about how to find the right information.

**ozbox** · 13-09-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by TwoTees

I just let you go with it and didn't give to much more thought to it until your latest stunt to HQV6ute in this thread. That was wrong!
I have now put the challenge to you to back these claims up before you do it again.
Being a wrecker for thirty years does not make what you say legally correct. Granted you probably have more knowledge of HQ-WB that any one here but please go to the correct document and point us all to the section that backs up what you are claiming or stop making the claims.

firstly..i dont do stunts..i do facts..
i dont believe it was wrong at all because i deal with people doing there dreams everyday of my life and have seen first hand the pain in someones face when they have been told by other people that they have a dud and then come to me to verify it.
also i havent been a wrecker for 30 years. ive been a licensed dealer for 30 years and a licensed wrecker for 20 years so im not just pulling them apart and selling the bits.
i buy and sell registered cars and also re register unregistered cars which is where i first came across the chassis number identity problems.
i do not need to prove myself right..you need to prove me wrong..

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Originally Posted by TwoTees

I made my opinion in the other thread that Absinth started along with many others. You came in with statements Like......

and other aggressive statements.

your opinion or those of any others of my aggressive statements in the other thread meen nothing to me...:(

**TwoTees** · 13-09-2011, 09:56 PM

I just want recap and clarify what it is I am trying to determine here.
Ozbox claims that once a chassis is changed the car looses its sandman title.
The logic used seems to be that a different chassis number brings with it a whole new identity.
I have been reading the NSW road transport regulation for quite a few hours and did not come here ill prepared. I have been over the Changing chassis/number section many times and nowhere is anything like this stated.

I am not trying to make a non matching number car sound more attractive than it should be. I simply take objection to the "complete loss of identity" bit and the way it has been used.

Perhaps there is another document that states different. Please Show it to me then we can all back talking about what bolts should I have holding my rocker covers on!

PS HQV6UTE, sorry for using your thread as a soap box but this needs to happen. When will we see some pictures?
Edit...
Oops!V6HQUTE sorry

**ozbox** · 13-09-2011, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by TwoTees

I just want recap and clarify what it is I am trying to determine here.
Ozbox claims that once a chassis is changed the car looses its sandman title.
The logic used seems to be that a different chassis number brings with it a whole new identity.

if it does not have a matching tag chassis number to chassis stamped number then it has mismatching numbers.
the numbers which are mismatching are the chassis number which then do not match the tags therefore taking with it from a collectible point the value of matching numbers..therefore no longer a matching number tag to chassis collectible.
the identity of any vehicle is the chassis number for registration purposes in any state of australia.this is a legal requirement for registration.
now i have typed this slowly and i would like everyone to read it slowly..

**hainzy** · 13-09-2011, 10:19 PM

Cmon you two...

**ozbox** · 13-09-2011, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by TwoTees

I am not trying to make a non matching number car sound more attractive than it should be. I simply take objection to the "complete loss of identity" bit and the way it has been used.

unfortunately it is a fact that the collectible vehicle is tarnished..

example..i owned a very rare and desireable black 4 speed vc brock commodore..had its correct tags..had its correct trim and wheels and numbered steering wheel .. but what it did have was police numbers on both engine and chassis...it was an absolute bitch to sell..half the price of what the market was because of police numbers..
as far as die hard brock owners were concerned it wasnt a brock.same thing with any collectible vehicle any where in the world.

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Originally Posted by hainzy

Cmon you two...