such a shame re some of the older vans.... unfortunately, those that build them, keep them for a while, then decide on another project or just to get out of vanning due to other commitments etc... or for so many other reasons, some beyond their control, and they're then sold on to those that don't appreciate the work, effort, blood, sweat and tears that went into building these great vans... some of us put so much effort & pride into them, they are our heart & soul... or even if you don't go radical and build a wonder-van... your heart & soul are still in them. such a shame......