Counterfeit Sandmans

[Blocker]

Technical services engineer at NSW rego (TRMS) has just told me that removing the compliance plate from a body is illegal - however they are ok with a rebody if the compliance plate of the new body remains. I explained that the chassis number would not match and he said that is not an issue for rego. You can legally do the body swap (keeping the new compliance plate not the old one) and then get a blue slip.

How long ago did you do your swap Greg? I guess whatever the circumstances you did ok in having the two compliance plates on the car.

However in SA they will not allow it at all. The new body including the compliance plate AND the chassis rail comes over (for HQ-WB) or you get a police stamp on the original chassis.

So, even though this thread has gone off track whatever you do seek advice from your local authority before making decisions like this, and it is apparent that some of these activities are considered illegal in some States of Australia.

[ozbox]

So, even though this thread has gone off track

i dont see how its gone off track..its basically the same as the chassis to tag thread...you asked about counterfiet sandmans didnt you?...exactly the same thing in principal...

[Blocker]

i dont see how its gone off track..its basically the same as the chassis to tag thread...you asked about counterfiet sandmans didnt you?...exactly the same thing in principal...

Without naming names has anyone come across any fake/counterfeit Sandman in the past 12/24 months for sale online?

Do you think there has been an increase in purposely faking a Sandman or do you think people are still not educated enough to know the difference.

The question I asked was; has anyone noticed an increase, not what makes a genuine or can it be done etc.

People in the know like yourself because you are in the business of motor trading and parts, and others on here might have gauged some idea if some knock-offs are becoming more common. I guess it'd be too hard unless we send guy like you and Byron flying around Australia to check every potential Sandman for sale :yawn:


The chassis and body stuff has been done to death and there is plenty of info on the other thread about that.

[playwme]

The question I asked was; has anyone noticed an increase, not what makes a genuine or can it be done etc.

I believe that in order to answer the question on whether there has been an increase it must first be determined what constitutes a genuine or a counterfeit. How do we otherwise determine the numbers?

Personally, I'd prefer that anything with terminal rust be sent to Ozbox for wrecking and the tags melted down. There's way too many "barn finds" getting resurrected and flooding the market (which makes ours less rare and desirable). I wouldn't consider a vehicle that had been reshelled with a secondhand body as genuine, no matter how correct. It's not the same vehicle that left the factory. You've destroyed the identity of that old base model vehicle to fix a high spec model. If I need a heart transplant and George Clooney gets killed in a car crash and they transplant his heart into me, does that then make me George Clooney? Would that be right of me to assume the identity of the higher spec model?

Of course, determining if a reshell has happened is nigh on impossible for most people, especially with a restored car. I guess that's why all mine are old and faded (and cheap). At least I know what I've got. Not that I'm planning on riding the wave of cashing in.