i had a pair of 12 slotters to suit xf only 14x7 ROH's few years ago, gave my sister 10 bucks and a pack of steel wool (she was young enough to think $10 was alot), came up good went on ebay made $150 i think, bloke drove all the way from maitland in a tiny little car for 2 rims, which is a good few hours, it takes 5.5-6hr to sydney from home to put it in perspective, turned up, paid and drove home again, pretty good for a set of free rims younger siblings are good for something