Fitting HZ GTS Dash to WB Ute... Help Needed..

[wbute]

Not sure on the price for the sender. You might get one from Greg second hand.
Yeah filling the tank will tell you one way or the other. A sparky will help you out for sure if you get stuck. Watch what he does if possible, good way to learn stuff! Multi meters are great for this kind of stuff, but you need someone to run you through how to use them. I am no help for you I am afraid. Maybe Agro could give you some pointers if you asked him nicely.
By the way, its great to see your so keen, you will know old Holdens inside out before you leave school! You have a great attitude!!

[83 WB_Ute]

sounds about right but you need the correct one, im sure i read on here about an oil pressure gauge doesnt work because they dont have the correct sender

Yeah, the oil pressure sender is different between the light and the guage.. But the temp is the same..

Not sure on the price for the sender. You might get one from Greg second hand.
Yeah filling the tank will tell you one way or the other. A sparky will help you out for sure if you get stuck. Watch what he does if possible, good way to learn stuff! Multi meters are great for this kind of stuff, but you need someone to run you through how to use them. I am no help for you I am afraid. Maybe Agro could give you some pointers if you asked him nicely.
By the way, its great to see your so keen, you will know old Holdens inside out before you leave school! You have a great attitude!!

Yeah.. I'll se what happens.. I'll fill the tank and see how I go, hopefully it works and I don't have to buy a new fuel sender as well... Yeah will definatley watch, he has already helped me out a fair bit.. I have been learning how to use multi meters at TAFE, I am just to much of a stinge to buy one.. lol I'll probably get one once the car is finished and when I have a few more $$$..

Haha, oh well.. Not everyone is good with wiring.. lol I am shocking with it.. haha

Thanks mate.. I just like to do things to the best of my ability and make sure they are completley done and up to my standards.. Anything less gets done again.. lol Well at least if my ute breaks down, I wil know exactley what is wrong with it.. lol hahaha

[buck]

I know after pulling the dash out of mine and replacing the lights behind the taco ,warning lights , blinker arm, heater fan fuse wiring,ignition it is best to coat all the contact with a product like corrode cure or inox as all the contacts on mine had 31 years of dust and slight corrosion, otherwise you will be chasing stray earths everywhere, a multimeter is a must you can pick one up from supercheap for about $15.00 they work just aswell as the expensive ones espiecally only 12 volts, i have traced shocking earths in the heater fan and in the dashboard and moved the earths to more positive connections like the body with paint removed.
Hope this helps, only i know what you going through, it took me a whole day to find the broken wire in the loom for the heater.

[83 WB_Ute]

I know after pulling the dash out of mine and replacing the lights behind the taco ,warning lights , blinker arm, heater fan fuse wiring,ignition it is best to coat all the contact with a product like corrode cure or inox as all the contacts on mine had 31 years of dust and slight corrosion, otherwise you will be chasing stray earths everywhere, a multimeter is a must you can pick one up from supercheap for about $15.00 they work just aswell as the expensive ones espiecally only 12 volts, i have traced shocking earths in the heater fan and in the dashboard and moved the earths to more positive connections like the body with paint removed.
Hope this helps, only i know what you going through, it took me a whole day to find the broken wire in the loom for the heater.

Cool, thanks for the help mate.. You wouldn't have any pics of you dash when it was out by chance?? I was thinking that there may be some other earth that I have missed.. Hopefully I can get to it tomorrow arvo cause I have a free period at school last, so might sign out and come home and have a go at trying to fix it..

Its a pain in the arse isn't it.. lol I hate wiring, there is soooo much that can go wrong and it can happen when and where ever it like.. hahaha

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Ohh, and repco didn't have a oil pressure sensor, so I have ordered one and its on its way..

[83 WB_Ute]

Well, I got out there and checked all the wiring. Removed all the guages and made sure I put the wiring back in the right spot, I then went in search of the place to fot those earths..

I could not find a place at all that looked like it was meant to have an earth, so I earthed them to the alloy guage holder and fitted it all back in and started her up.. The battery guage still works and the blinker is gone when you turn the lights on.. But still no other guages work.. Ohh, and now the blinker lights don't even come on when the indicators are turned on... lol

So I have no idea on what could be wrong with it.. I have every wire hooked up to something or earthed and it's still not working.. I went an checked the wiring on the temp sender on the motor and it was a little frayed, but it still had a fair bit of wire left to make a connection..

So I think I will be giving the auto eletrician friends a call and hopefully they can work it out..

Also, it will probably help if I had a wiring diagram for the GTS dash.. So I am in dire need of a picture of a GTS wiring diagram.. It will aid the auto leccy friends heaps and make it easier to find the problem..

So please, let me know if you have a wiring diagram!!

[buck]

gts 2.jpgdoes this help, not sure if its going to be big enoughgts dash.jpg

[83 WB_Ute]

I don't have a yellow needle wiring diagram but do have a white needle HJ diagram that, now I'm back home, I can scan and email you if you need it. Flick me a PM with your email addy in it and I'll send one off ASAP.

Thanks mate.. I will pm you now..

gts 2.jpgdoes this help, not sure if its going to be big enoughgts dash.jpg

Cool, thanks mate... I will print them off and try and enlarge them.. Thanks again..

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Well, things are just going from bad to worse..

The guages wern't working, and now the battery has gone flat again and the car doesn't want to start.. lol

I have the battery on charge at the moment, and am currently trying to work out why it doesn't want to run.. I'll work it out though, it has spark and compression and it is firing so it must be that it isn't getting enough fuel.. But it is getting some, but not much!!

I fitted the oil pressure sender and that guage works now, so we now have 2 guages working Hopefully soon I will have it all working..

[Taily]

I don't have a yellow needle wiring diagram but do have a white needle HJ diagram that, now I'm back home, I can scan and email you if you need it. Flick me a PM with your email addy in it and I'll send one off ASAP.

[83 WB_Ute]

Well, soon after I fitted the oil pressure sender we lost both guages that were working.. Just my bloody luck!! The voltmeter was working properly, thenit just died.. lol Now when the car is running the needle doesn't even move but the light is constantley on while the car is running.. But light is off when the ignition is on (but car is not running..)

So I decided to send the gauges off to get tested to make sure that I am not fighting a losing battle thinking its wiring, while its the gauges.. So they are sent off and are going to be tested over the next week.. If they need to be repaired then I'll get them done.. Just out of curiosity how much do you cahrge to rebuild the clock [MENTION=3]wbute[/MENTION] ??

I did notice while looking at some of the complete HZ GTS dashes on ebay there is 2 'prongs' on the back of the combination gauge that say 'Red - 5 Volt' above them. Some of them on ebay have red wires and plugs connected to them. My harness doesn't have these plugs, nor does the HZ GTS wiring diagram have the red wires on it... and I'm pretty sure that the original WB harness thats in the car doesn't have any red wires in that area..

I'll go and check now just to make 100% sure that there is nothing there..

The drama continues, but I'm slowly eliminating things..

[83 WB_Ute]

I went and had a look, there are no red wires in that area of the original WB harness.. Did your harness have red wires [MENTION=930]buck[/MENTION] ??

Anyone have any ideas???