Casey Stoner and V8's

[Taily]

Here we go again like i said in another forum you have to move with the times the old torana days as good as they were are over cause there going to race new cars when the vb commodore came out everyone said the same thing but we all moved on to bigger faster cars thats what racing is about not the old slugs they used to race as much as i like watching the muscle cars racing they are as slow as snails live as for v8 superscar lost it i think not 177000 thousand people in 3 days at the sydney telstra 500 tells a story the interest is still there for those that like v8 racing

Was really only referring to the relevance of the cars today, rather than how exciting they are. I certainly see your point of view and agree with you to a point. Racing is what it is, driver against driver and that will never change. I just find it hard to call the cars that they race "Falcon's" and "Commodores" is all. One example of how it has been good for the sport is that we now have professional drivers who can derive their entire income from the sport (and associated product endorsements etc), whereas in days gone by they (like league players etc) used to have to have a day job like everyone else.

Big sponsorship dollars change many things, what we've known in the past as Group A, Group C, ATCC, V8's and now V8 Supercars is no different. Sign of the times? Yep. Better than it was in previous incarnations? Jury still out, but as it means different things to different people some will say yeah, others will say Nope.

Agro mentioned about Larrikin Larry, to me he (and others like Brock, Johnson etc) were the last breath of the old school 70's and 80's drivers that helped build the sport to a point that got sponsorship dollars interested. You occasionally see a flash of these older drivers in people like Russell Ingall etc, but for the most part the drivers are a clinical machine that is harder and harder to like, if you can see where I'm coming from?

With reference to that, back on topic I hope that Casey can change that impression that many get from many of todays drivers...

Regards,

Dave

[wbute]

It's dead set boring. There is no connection with a car brand to speak of. Half the beauty of the old touring cars was when one brand had a dog of a model and either the driver stepped up or they got flogged. You had different capacity engines racing and you even had different classes in the one race. You might also find a change of cars/classes would attract a lot more than170000 people over 3 days.

[Valencia]

So having slow classes makes it more exciting bullshit they just screw the whole race why should a 2 litre race in a v8 class i will never understand that
and wbute if you had watched race 10 at phillip island today then you wouldnt say it was boring was one of the best races of the year so far

[wbute]

Ah I was at work so not possible. Different classes of cars in one race expose people to other fast cars and also make racing interesting as drivers use back markers to their advantage or sometimes disadvantage.
Also Australian racing in previous decades has shown how smaller engines can be just as competitive. You can't discount the relevance of XU1 toranas, E49 chargers, mini minors, S4 EH's etc. They were all just as good to watch as a phase 3 falcon.