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    Survivor

    Been seeing the use of Survivor lately. Here is the definition as used at the 2010 Monaro Nationals. The term originated in the USA with Corvette owners, to try to preserve the original "time capsule" cars thar couldn't qualify for factory authentic due to faded paint etc, and were being ruined by being resprayed. It is a judging class you will see used more in Australia in the future hopefully. The  next to the word SURVIVOR was a registered trademark logo that didn't copy and past across, so read it as that.

    SURVIVOR CLASS


    The primary objective of the creation of a new class labeled SURVIVOR* is for the recognition of the growing number of largely untouched Monaros more than 20 years old that exist. Until now, these cars have been included in the Factory Authentic class where the focus is on as-built correctness allowing original examples to compete against recent re-built examples. A car deemed to have SURVIVOR status could often be used as a benchmark for all other classes where the emphasis is on factory original correctness.

    A growing interest in as-built condition has seen the number of vehicles entered in Factory Authentic increase – many of these are cars that are largely un-restored. When a true “survivor” makes an appearance, all eyes are on the car as it has the unique ability to take one back in time. Sight as well as smell can do wonders to the memories of those enthralled in the magic of such a car.

    The SURVIVOR class will cater for the Monaro owner who has ensured the past has been transported to the present in terms of a Holden Monaro. Often through an unusual set of circumstances, a specific car has escaped the ravages of time in one way or another. The vehicle could a low-mile low-use example or it could be a car that has been meticulously cared for during its life.

    This class has the potential to be the most challenging in regard to qualification and as such the clarification/definition of the class is quite involved.


    Clarification/Definition

    A ‘Survivor’ vehicle shall present as largely unaltered from as-built factory condition. It must be at least 20 years old and retain the original driveline as well as at least 50% of the materials and components used on the assembly line during the original manufacture process. 50% of original finishes accurate enough to serve as references for restoration of like vehicles must be present. ’Survivor’ vehicles act as a time capsule for the future preservation of the Monaro marque.

    The clarification/definition states a figure – 50%. 50% means ˝ as a minimum as used in the context of describing a specific area of the vehicle. For the judging process, the vehicle will be divided into four (4) areas and the 50% figure is applicable to each area.

    SURVIVOR class vehicles must retain at least 50% of the original Holden assembly line finishes (paint, fabrics/materials, plating) that would be considered accurate enough to be used as a reference for the restoration of similar Monaros.

    Judging Criteria

    The vehicle will be judged in four (4) areas namely – Exterior (excluding wheels); Interior/Boot; Under bonnet; Vehicle underbody (including suspension and wheels). Each area of the vehicle will be judged as one component and a decision made as to whether that component remains at least 50% un-restored, un-refinished, un-recovered or unaltered.


    * SURVIVOR is a registered trademark of Bloomington Gold.

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    great buzz word to add value to those rusty piles of pg13 on ebay huh
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    If they are rusty they would rarely be classed as survivors as rust isn't a factory finish. Some minor rust will pass, but rusted out sils and cowls most likely wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    If they are rusty they would rarely be classed as survivors as rust isn't a factory finish. Some minor rust will pass, but rusted out sils and cowls most likely wouldn't.
    Rust not a factory finish? Who would of thought... I figured it was an option that most buyers must have ticked ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vombil View Post
    Rust not a factory finish? Who would of thought... I figured it was an option that most buyers must have ticked ;)
    Hehe.... My old man worked on the assembly line at Acacia Ridge back in 72-73 and rust was definitely a factory finish. 100's of new cars sitting out in the back lot with grass growing up around them is not exactly conducive to rust free cars. Some sat there for quite a while before being shipped out.
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    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

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    50%???????? Surley thats a bit loose? I see it includes 50% of the "plating".
    A survivor car has remained as it was from the factory in original paint. Not rusted out and still good enough to breeze through rego. I don't know what every one else thinks, but that description above covers any old crap wagon.

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    I don't need to read through a document to know what a survivor is. The term has been around for as long as I remember, and I have attended plenty of car show's since 1973. For some clown to trademark the word "survivor" is just absolute crap. I just find it hard to believe, in my day car and van show's used to be fun. What a sad turn of event's, anyone with a survivor car like the 3 XY GT Falcon's, will have to get permission to call them survivor's now.
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    How about we trade mark "Original Unrestored" "Barn Find"

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    It is the description used by Bloomington Gold in the USA for Corvettes, and has spread to other marques. It doesn't cover rubbish, the car still has to retain 50% of its original paint, trim, underbonnet etc. Anything replaced starts reducing the %. My Premier barely qualifies and it is in very good condition. But it has had some things replaced, like water pump, some hoses, radiator (early on with a genuine one), head gaskets, muffler, mudflaps, tyres, shocks etc. In some areas it is down to 55-60% factory original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    It is the description used by Bloomington Gold in the USA for Corvettes, and has spread to other marques. It doesn't cover rubbish, the car still has to retain 50% of its original paint, trim, underbonnet etc. Anything replaced starts reducing the %. My Premier barely qualifies and it is in very good condition. But it has had some things replaced, like water pump, some hoses, radiator (early on with a genuine one), head gaskets, muffler, mudflaps, tyres, shocks etc. In some areas it is down to 55-60% factory original.
    geeze is it that strict, i understand paint/interior but hoses and headgaskets, thats like saying you cant enter your 35+yr old car becasue it doesnt have its original oil

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