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    Fair enough.

    Note though that NOS parts normally would be treated just like aftermarket stuff and belong in the 50% that has not survived. Most of this stuff if different to the original bits in some way, eg it has part numbers on it (radiator hoses), it has changed for later series (eg lower control arms), plating finish is different (eg zinc vs gold coloured Utilux clamps).

    Remember also that a car locked away untouched for 20 years probably wouldn't be a Survivor, it'd be Concours or Factory Authentic.

    You'll find that the people at Bloomington Gold who came up with the Survivor concept for Corvettes know more about the cars than anyone else. Same with the guy who put it together for the 2010 Monaro Nationals. The whole idea was to discourage trophy hunters and encourage preservation of those few Survivors that still exist.
    Adam, you are confusing Concours or Factory Authentic with Survivor. The whole idea of Survivor is to preserve, not for judging purposes. The class doesn't want you to touch the car other than to keep it operating. Some stuff has to be touched like balljoints, seals, mufflers etc. There will always be trophies for this class, but I think most people who have cars eligible are not trophy hunters. If their cars are good enough then they'll have a crack at people's choice and would probably appreciate it more (I know I would, and i'm sure everyone else here would too). At the 2010 Monaro Nationals my choice of car for People's choice would have been the white L30 MC7 HQ Kingswood sedan that was there, but I doubt many others would have picked the same car.

    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Nah I am not missing the point, a survivor car is just that. It has survived, not been made to look like one through buying NOS parts and bolting them on.
    If those falcons are not survivor cars then stuff the "experts". They are the cars people want to see. Warts and all cars in the condition that they were intended to be used in.
    Seems to me that the people who determine what a survivor car is may well be the same weird people who buy brand new cars and lock them in garages and never drive them, hoping they will have the ultimate survivor car in years to come.
    I hereby state that the official description of a survivor car is a load of crap. A true survivor car should be judged by spectators at a car show. They probably appreciate them more than the so called expert judges.
    Last edited by HK1837; 15-06-2012 at 09:17 AM. Reason: Spelling mistakes

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