View Poll Results: Do you consider the HBD Vans as Sandman's?

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    Official, because I do care!

    224 Total were built from VY Series 2 to the end of VZ. I'm unclear if this number includes the original MAMBO concept build, original FTP VU work Van or the two VY Series I Hot House Green promotion builds for the motor shows in 2003? But regardless it's +/- four. 11 in total were Maloo's of this 11, 3 only were R8's. 2 were VY SII the other a VZ. Of this 11 most were sold to the Australian Defence Force for use as promotion and recruitment vehicles (6 possibly 7 and all were black). Two Maloo's were actually (VY Series I ) originally painted Black but both were later changed to White to promote the Microsoft X-Box.

    This 224 are all official SANDMAN conversions and all have the HBD compliance plate on the drivers side radiator support panel.
    All of these are special vehicles and all should be noted as such, Be they your cuppa tea or not. They are official HOLDEN offerings regardless of "who or whom" was contracted to make the parts.
    HOLDEN outsource thousands of parts. The "conversion" is meant to be a permanent conversion (not slip on and off at will). It's custom fitted and it changes the body shape of the vehicle legally. Changes the official vehicle weight and complies with the relevant Australian Design Rules.

    Obviously there is an even bigger breakdown. Like how many were V8 SS, Storm's or Thunder's. Also even a few poverty pack V6 S version or lower versions.
    There is a bloke (Rowan) ex-employee who has these stats right down to colours they were all painted.

    Since then, a handful of VU to VZ have been done by AMCAT with the revised "original" mould.
    AMCAT numbers for aftermarket early VU, VY and VZ and then later VE's are all numbered on the makers tag (fitted inside on the roof area near the Monaro toggle interior light). Mine is number 0062
    Last I knew official number were still under 100 total. Remember this includes VU-VY-VZ and VE.

    It is extremely obvious that "some" don't care, don't rate and don't give a flying _ about these models or stats.
    But they are desirable and collectible in my eyes and appears quite a few others!

    As for the arguments about "is it a Sandman" etc. HOLDEN themselves called them that in official promotional material and that's all that matters!
    Their car, their design, their name to do as they please.

    Regards, Smooth
    Last edited by Innuendo; 25-11-2012 at 10:59 PM. Reason: added extra info

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