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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadVan View Post
    Thanks for the imput. I'm hearing you about the Hiluxes but I had a 2000 patrol petrol yrs ago and could not get over the fuel consumption. So I am a bit concerned about going for a big car with petrol motor. Commodore is on gas so its a bit hard to judge what it goes thru. Doing the sums diesels are cheaper to run per km but probably going to pay that back when servicing is due. So not sure if it makes diesel a winner or a loser. Apparently the Dmax does 8.1 combined per 100km which seems pretty good for a large vehicle certainly better the Commodore. More input would be great.

    Cheers Dave
    My 4x4 SR5 averages around 13L/100kM on E10. 2WD version will do around 12L/100kM. To me that is awesome economy, the 2.5TD manual D40 Navara we had in the Company was lucky to do better! It'll take you somewhere between 3 and 6 years to recoup the extra cost of the diesel vehicle in the first place, and you have to put up with a diesel. There is nothing wrong with diesels, it is just people get this idea in their head about fuel consumption, and it is all silly hype in many ways. The cost saving I would get in mine, taking into account the extra 15c/L or more the diesel is over E10 is about $300-400 a year maximum. And i'd have to put up with the smell of diesel, a clunky old overheating 4spd auto whcih the diesels get and a slow old car to boot that you have to plan ahead to move into traffic.
    If diesel is a must though, try a ST-X Navara with the 3.0L V6 and the Mazda BT-50/Ford Gillard (Ranger!) with the 3.2L 5cyl diesel. These are both good trucks too, but still don't drive as good as a V6 auto Hilux! And NEVER let them run out of new car warrranty! Don't buy anything with a diesel particulate filter like auto 2.5TD Navara.

    If you are looking at late model secondhand diesels, the old shape BT-50 or Ford Ranger had in my opinion the best diesel to drive. The 2.5TD Navara feels the most "carlike" to drive, you'd swear the engine was a little 2.0L petrol engine the way it revs, but they are still very slow. Avoid manuals as the dual mass flywheels/clutches aren't really up to towing, especially low speed reversing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    My 4x4 SR5 averages around 13L/100kM on E10.
    You'll get better economy then that if you don't use E10 crap...

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