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    19V trim code on a 'Belmont' van is another good pointer - but HK1837 will probably send you a private message to clarify a few things for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blocker View Post
    19V trim code on a 'Belmont' van is another good pointer - but HK1837 will probably send you a private message to clarify a few things for you.
    Trim codes don't mean anything on HJ Blocker. 19V is the standard black trim for a buckets seat HJ Belmont sedan or wagon or Holden ute, van or tonner.

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    HJ's were never badged as BELMONT.

    Of course you all already knew this!

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    Looks like it was Mandarin Red with Black trim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    HJ's were never badged as BELMONT.

    Of course you all already knew this!

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    Looks like it was Mandarin Red with Black trim.
    That's why I put the word 'Belmont' in parenthesis, otherwise typing Holden or non Kingswood would probably not be clear to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blocker View Post
    That's why I put the word 'Belmont' in parenthesis, otherwise typing Holden or non Kingswood would probably not be clear to the OP.
    Ah yes, but chezzabeer stated that Holden told her it was a genuine Belmont and I was just pointing this out for the OP.

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    Good call. I missed that paragraph

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    Just to make it more confusing, Belmont was dropped from commercials, but you could still buy a Belmont sedan or Wagon in HJ and HX!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chezzabeer View Post
    Thankyou so much for your time to look into it and explain.
    At the end of the day I am still none the wiser. Guess I can honestly say to my knowledge it is a genuine Sandman!! ( or appears to be) without being 100% I cant believe how difficult it is to find info, Is there any way I can track previous owners?
    The prevoius owner had told me he met the origional 1st buyer who confirmed it was a Sandman he said he bought it up in Brisbane, which would seem weird if there is a factory up there to be an Adelaide build? would it not??

    is there any one in Tassie who may be able to assit me to with the vrification of the console bracket?

    GMH said it was a belmont/build body from the plates and that was the only Authnticity they could give me unless it had the XX7 or Xu3 stamp then they would still not give actual authenticity, but rather a letter saying these numbers correspond with the Sandman theyalso said that holden didnt actually decide which vans would be sandmans, that that was up to the dealers.

    Who ever knew it could be so hard The belmont thing is confusing too. Do we all own HJ belmont Sandies???? LOL Jeesh! I just thought they were HJ's blonde I know,....... I can hear you men all laughing now.
    As I said, ignore what Holden are telling you. They have no idea, none of them were there at the time. It is a different Company now. Just look at the dribble they are telling you that dealers decided which were Sandmans and which weren't!

    Don't worry about the Belmont thing. HQ vans were all Belmonts, HJ they are just called Holden panel vans. So the commercial model lineup in HJ was:

    HJ Holden cab chassis.
    HJ Holden utility.
    HJ Holden panel van
    HJ Kingswood utility.

    The Sandman package was a special vehicle package optioned on any of the utes or vans (just not on cab chassis). Just like you can buy a Thunder ute today that is an option pack on an SV6 or SS ute, that is how the Sandman package worked in HJ (ie optioned on Holden or Kingswood ute or Holden van). There were other special vehicle packages available too, they just aren't as well known as Sandman. A few examples are XU4 (passenger tyres on a commercial), B06 (Ambulance pack), XW5 (outback pack) to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    There were other special vehicle packages available too, they just aren't as well known as Sandman. A few examples are XU4 (passenger tyres on a commercial), B06 (Ambulance pack), XW5 (outback pack) to name a few.
    So my B06 is also known as a "Sandman".
    WooHoo.
    I finally have it in print that Byron said so.
    BO6 = Rarer then a Sandman

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    Quote Originally Posted by agr071 View Post
    So my B06 is also known as a "Sandman".
    WooHoo.
    I finally have it in print that Byron said so.
    Huh? What have you been drinking or smoking Agro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    There were other special vehicle packages available too, they just aren't as well known as Sandman. A few examples are XU4 (passenger tyres on a commercial), B06 (Ambulance pack), XW5 (outback pack) to name a few.
    I wouldn't do that!!!
    BO6 = Rarer then a Sandman

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