i must disagree as much as i like V8s i have a hotrod with a 302 windsor (not going), a HJ sandman with a 350 (not going), a HQ monaro with a 308(not going)and a LX SS hatchback with a 202 that gets neglected and just goes and goes and goes and a HT kingswood with a 186 that was at the back of my shed for 4 years untouched and all i did was put a battery in it (not even fresh fuel) and it fired up with no problems and i have been driving it for 2 months. We have just got back from a cruise and there was a very nice HJ sandman van there Absinth yellow with HJ stripes which looked fantastic but under the bonnet was a good ol 202 and he was having as much fun as anyone. I have a good 202 in the shed and i am very tempted to put it in my van and just have some fun!