ok soz guys but some of you are contradicting ur self’s and the info on this page it says if is its 80wn80 for a van its not a sandman on the info on this page and some of the original sandman brochures show hj sandmans with both types of trim, hk1837 has told me in this forum that my trim should be beige but in another were I asked he told me it was chamois im just a lil confused on what it should be, im asking as I have a no a guy selling a retrimmed sot of seat in chasios 60v they are sticked and not welded but a good price do u think it would make a huge difference to the van value in the end im new to the sandman thing. thanks for help