i agree we bought a VS new and never had a problem with it .my son has it now and has put VZ ssz wheels on it and a decent stereo and has just bought a series 2 calais front bumper with fog lights for it .they are very popular with the young guys,reminds me of when we had our EH,HR HTs etc .Last year i had a look at VS senator with 106000 ks for 11 grand but i took too long to decide and it sold within 2 days ,i was quite happy to sell my ss torana to buy it.