factory windows

**Innuendo** · 06-01-2014, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Flamenco_not_Flamingo

Interesting because I was going to ask about the HG as there is one for sale that states " very rare 1970 hg windowless panel van ", which means if I am comprehending it correctly, that they basically all came out with side windows, not that hg vans were rare lol.

So what your saying Innuendo is that no windows is the norm as opposed to the rule from factory?

The point they are making is that they are selling a "rare to find today" windowless HG. All left the factory with no side panel glass (so they certainly weren't rare then). BUT many had windows fitted by dealers or customers via aftermarket suppliers. As mentioned previously companies like Canopy Industries, Athol Hedges Pty Ltd and places like Vancraft would do the side glass conversions.

**Absinth** · 03-01-2014, 08:32 PM

Advertising photo showing HX Sandman with factory side windows.

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Back in the 80's I had a mate with a HG that had factory side windows in it, his father ordered it from Zupps Mt Gravatt and it came from Acacia Ridge with windows.

another mate had an ex Government HQ van with factory side windows, at least they were the same shape and size as the factory side windows in my HJ Sandman at the time.

I'll have to do some more research on these and see if I can pin down when factory side windows started in vans.

**Innuendo** · 03-01-2014, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Absinth

Back in the 80's I had a mate with a HG that had factory side windows in it, his father ordered it from Zupps Mt Gravatt and it came from Acacia Ridge with windows.

Back in the 80's I had multiple HK-T-G Vans with side glass but it always aftermarket or aftermarket dealer supplied. The Queensland side glass supplier for Van and Canopies was Athol Hedges Pty Ltd at Northgate, Brisbane. Very similar to what Canopy Industries was to New South Wales. As mentioned previously no part numbers exist for any Holden side glass pre HJ part catalogs.

You will also notice that Armourglas left the last "s" of glass so the date code (year) would read:

A = 1
R = 2
M = 3
O = 4
U = 5
R = 6
G = 7
L = 8
A = 9
S = 0

Check the "DOT" on your own cars and see if it matches your year of build.
Supposedly prior to this system "No Dot" equaled "0" I.E: 1960, 1970, 1980 etc

**Innuendo** · 04-01-2014, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by adam perth

HR bpnnet spear and over riders are possible Nasco Options..

Yeah that is true enough, but the likelihood of these being ordered at new for a commercial model is next to zero.
Of course if a purchase receipt can be produced to prove it, I'd eat my words. Though I don't expect to be snacking on them any time soon!

It's a cool old bus nevertheless.

Originally Posted by Innuendo

Supposedly prior to this system "No Dot" equaled "0" I.E: 1960, 1970, 1980 etc

Hmm, my 1960 FB has a dot on the 10th letter of Armourplate (above the "t") so I'm not convinced on that piece of information.
The good news is just about all pieces of glass are marked the same in that car, the two that don't match (you guessed it) no dot!

**Absinth** · 06-01-2014, 07:34 PM

Yeah, all part numbers are the same as you posted.

**Innuendo** · 06-01-2014, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Absinth

Yeah, all part numbers are the same as you posted.

OK, cool. So I personally can't say I've seen a HQ with the same side glass as yours or Rodney's.
That's not to say they didn't. Just that I only ever seem to remember HQ's having the taller glass.

**buickzz** · 07-01-2014, 02:08 PM

<<<<<< HQ factory glass at left in my avatar.

**Innuendo** · 07-01-2014, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by buickzz

<<<<<< HQ factory glass at left in my avatar.

Yes, you have said. but this is not the glass that Rodney and Sean have. If the parts books have the same parts numbers something doesn't add up.
Likely because the HQ glass wasn't fitted by Holden themselves. Do you have any bigger, better, larger pictures?

**buickzz** · 08-01-2014, 08:58 AM

I have the glass in the shed. I can measure it if you like . .

**Absinth** · 09-01-2014, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Innuendo

OK, cool. So I personally can't say I've seen a HQ with the same side glass as yours or Rodney's.
That's not to say they didn't. Just that I only ever seem to remember HQ's having the taller glass.

Ok, took a bit of searching on the net but I have found you some HQ's with factory glass.

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Originally Posted by Innuendo

That would be excellent. Especially if Sean or Rodney can do the same with the measurements from their glass.

I have Rodney's glass and rubbers in my shed as the rubbers are being used on my van... Both sets of glass are the same size and have the same markings. I'll measure them later and post them up.