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    I'd say I'm pretty much convinced on the factory glass being for HJ-X-Z-WB and it being as Rodney and Sean's Van show.
    HQ on the other hand I'm still to be convinced. Nothing pre HQ had factory side glass. Even though Byron suggests the part numbers are HK-T-G era I'd suggest these numbers were "spares" for when such occasions arose. This happened quite a bit with Holden (more so with accessories). Potentially the side glass "might" have been earmarked for introduction with the boat anchor model I.E: HK-T-G but seeing as it failed to make the parts manuals for these or even HQ it has doubt. These at this time were still being outsourced to the aftermarket and thus varied in type, brand and style in each state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seavan View Post
    Hard to see in such a tiny photo but are likely to be a Canopy Industries conversion.

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    This is from Alien dna post on original 22,000k hr holden panelvan post mid last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seavan View Post
    This is from Alien dna post on original 22,000k hr holden panelvan post mid last year.
    Yeah, I remember the ad. Fact still remains the side glass is aftermarket and likely Canopies Industries. A close look at the glass and markings would tell the full story.
    As I remember the ad for this HR Van it also had other modifications. Bonnet spear and overriders aren't correct for a start, somebody has been tarting it up. As for original 22K mileage ... Hmm maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    As I remember the ad for this HR Van it also had other modifications. Bonnet spear and overriders aren't correct for a start, somebody has been tarting it up.
    HR bpnnet spear and over riders are possible Nasco Options..


    Judging from the market, Windowed vans are 25% less value than windowless as to the original question
    "All correspondence must bear these numbers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    I'd say I'm pretty much convinced on the factory glass being for HJ-X-Z-WB and it being as Rodney and Sean's Van show.
    HQ on the other hand I'm still to be convinced. Nothing pre HQ had factory side glass.
    Back home now and have checked my manuals..... Side windows listed as per previous post in section 11.011 (glass) and 11.015 (seals) of HQ parts catalogue No. M37441 issued Oct. 1973.

    Side windows were definitely a factory fitted option on HQ Sandman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    Back home now and have checked my manuals..... Side windows listed as per previous post in section 11.011 (glass) and 11.015 (seals) of HQ parts catalogue No. M37441 issued Oct. 1973.

    Side windows were definitely a factory fitted option on HQ Sandman.
    Thanks Sean that is good to know. All my manuals are still locked away. One minute we were moving the next we're not and then we think we are going to soon; so everything is packed ready. I assume the part numbers are the same as I posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    Back home now and have checked my manuals..... Side windows listed as per previous post in section 11.011 (glass) and 11.015 (seals) of HQ parts catalogue No. M37441 issued Oct. 1973.

    Side windows were definitely a factory fitted option on HQ Sandman.
    You could certainly order them in HQ, whether or not they were fitted at the body plant (or some body plants) is the uncertain factor. Buickzz's original HQ Sandman shows A09 on the broadcast sheet as a build option, plus shows YES in box 34 (fixed side windows). However the van arrived at the dealer with the windows in the car, and they were fitted by the dealer (contracted out to a 3rd party) along with the stripes. So we know that at that time Acacia Ridge most likely were not fitting the windows. My guess is Elizabeth and Pagewood did, but more proof is needed. Note that is it fairly rare to get items listed on the broadcast sheet that are not fitted in the body or assembly plants or in some cases the finishing/touchup area(s), we know HQ and HJ Sandman stripes were one. Normally the dealer would just fit stuff you asked for like mudflaps, towbar etc.

    As Sean says the glass and rubbers are in the 10/73 and 3/77 HQ cattledogs but they aren't in the HQ commercial release catalogue from 11/71.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    Nothing pre HQ had factory side glass. Even though Byron suggests the part numbers are HK-T-G era I'd suggest these numbers were "spares" for when such occasions arose.
    Interesting because I was going to ask about the HG as there is one for sale that states " very rare 1970 hg windowless panel van ", which means if I am comprehending it correctly, that they basically all came out with side windows, not that hg vans were rare lol.

    So what your saying Innuendo is that no windows is the norm as opposed to the rule from factory?

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