Quote Originally Posted by Vombil View Post
forget the premier, cant stand them. to me a premier is a car that is trying to be a statesman and statesman are shite! the poor mans BMW. the blokes out there with the gink in the wallet want to tell their mates they have a kinga coz everyone knows what a kinga is and everyone has a memory attached to the almighty kinga. In the 6cyl variant and poss the 253 i reckon the kinga would have the wood on a premier; all things being equal. that's my take on it
Premier was always the luxury Holden, it was around for a long time before the Statesman arrived, and it lives on today as the Calais (Statesman is not part of the Holden range, it is a separate LWB vehicle, always has been). Premiers in top condition and heavily optioned will always outsell Standard/Belmont or Special/Kingswood, like a HR Premier 186S 4spd will always trump the same thing in a Special. The only problem with Prems post HQ is they were standard as an auto, and this can remove buyers making a 5.0L 4spd Kingswood more attractive to some.

You are spot on with the Kingswood name, but not because everybody knows what a Kingswood is. They think all Holdens are Kingswoods, you see it all the time, even tonners get called Kingswood. Just a misnomer like many - I don't know how many times my SWB roofless FJ40 got called a Jeep. Or any Holden converted to a 4x4 gets called an Overlander, or stuff like that!