Just don't delete or move images on Photobucket and all will be fine.
Just don't delete or move images on Photobucket and all will be fine.
That's the down fall though isn't it. It's a very poor way of keeping history. There are heaps of threads from a couple of years ago that now have no photos. It just doesn't work.Originally Posted by Innuendo
I agree, but it's not a document. You print books for that.
All the images I've "chosen" to leave on forums are still viewable and date back a very long time in some cases over a decade.
Most times the images fail is because people change the file structure by moving them on the host server either through naivety or desire because they have become crapped off.
This is the only "book" on Sandmans and the only reference source that has some form of reliability. Although there are often mistakes they are usually corrected. Just seems to me to be a bit of a shame that there is no way of having pictures permanently attached to threads. Anyway, no doubt the cost is a major issue.
Before photos are of much more value than after restoration photos. I hope some survive.
My issue with pics is actually with finding a photo host website that doesn't fill my ageing computer/email up with garbage. I thought I had that solved tonight, but, not quite, I'm getting there. I found it pretty easy to work out how to actually post pics to the site once I read the instructions, got it to work straight up, but just found it didn't work with a preferred host site I would like to use. Will sort it tomorrow.
I am with wbute on this one. Probably, the site is not quite the only "book" (ebook?) on Sandmans, but it is, perhaps, the beginning of a definitive one, it is a very good resource, and an electronic artefact, and as such is close enough to being literature... in modern terms, yes. Electronic literature at least. And literature should be protected!!This is the only "book" on Sandmans and the only reference source that has some form of reliability. Although there are often mistakes they are usually corrected. Just seems to me to be a bit of a shame that there is no way of having pictures permanently attached to threads. Anyway, no doubt the cost is a major issue.
Before photos are of much more value than after restoration photos. I hope some survive.
Storing all pics on a server online is obviously cost prohibitive, it would also imaginably limit the number of pics members could post, which may then be fun prohibitive too!
BUT, if (for instance) one of the commonly used photo sharing sites suddenly and unforeseeably collapsed, or crashed with data loss, or just changed its rules, lots of ery cool pages on this site could be reduced greatly, or totally, and that data could be difficult or just impossible/unlikely to regain and restore, some of it would perhaps take heaps and heaps of work to restore, and a lot of contributions would thus become unclear, unworthy, or, without meaning, Surely?
I really like the idea (in this thread somewhere) of all photos and entries being stored on a dedicated private hard drive somewhere. That would not be too expensive, its the online storage that costs? (Oh yep, sorry forgot about the work, yeah OK, add the work).... but if it is possible, I suppose the way to do it would be repetitive data back up, a large dedicated hard drive that gets connected every week or so and just dumps the entire site (with pics) to itself, and then a second one that does it the next week, swap back to the first one overwriting for week three, etc, (a further pain in the a and more work for our excellent moderators), but... there would also be an easy hard copy book to make out of that one day, or perhaps a series of such.
It is, (as my ex-employers wife and supervisor said to me a few years back when I explained my concern at all my money going into a Sandman "part of the National Heritage, worthy and important"). I was pleasantly surprised when she said this, as it was a legal firm, and very proper. I suppose everyone loves an old Holden.
I'm just musing, but the pics on this site (of restorations start to finish, as well as completed vehicles, spare parts for sale, technical points, and stuff from outside the site and just generally off the www etc - all of those and anything) will often be the fascinating, and evoking part of it for many viewers and members.
Having copies of all contributors pics in the back ups for the site somewhere offline would be a nice, if not really worthwhile, thing to have as a community if it can be done.
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Your looking for a perfect world and it doesn't exist on the Internet.
Nothing stopping you from printing the pages you read; photos and all, and nothing stopping you from collecting the photographs and storing them for safe keeping.
Blocker has been over why he doesn't want photos directly posted via the forum infrastructure. It slows the forum loading to a crawl and adds cost - to him.
He will also be fast in telling you this forum comes to us at no financial charge.
Any one or even multiple hosting sites can close, move and die. If we paid for a dedicated server for images it too is also only as good as the supplier.
I don't disagree with your wants, but I don't think it's very realistic.
BTW: www.photobucket.com offer a good service that works and doesn't bombard you with emails. The ad's on site can be a little annouying but again - it's FREE!
Yeah fairly aware of the reasons that Blocker has for not hosting photos, I was the third or fourth to join this site. But.... I think the time may have come to have a photos of historical importance section that is retained for future reference. Otherwise the way it is stated, the Internet is a useless resource( which it's not, people just need to look around the problem for a solution, not just get bamboozled by the problem).
Im amazedby how a topic on this form can end up with such a hugh debate ,
For simple folk like me this forum is all about information, entertainment and like minded people.
I am a 48 year old machanic that was lucky enough to have cut his teeth on all the muscle cars of the late 60s and 70s ! By the time I was an apprentice thes cars were comon in workshops as daily drivers,
I thought I knew a thing or 2 about these cars but the knowledge of some of the forum users here is truely remarkable, I have learnt so much just by readind and looking ar PICTURES,,,!!!!
You nead to keep them all!!!!!
So has there been some changes to how we can post pics on here? Can we post straight from an iphone or not?
Hay can anyone tell me if posting pics on here has changed? I tried to read blockers but couldnt? Any suggestions
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