It just another very Gray area. That said, I would be very leary if I was looking at a car for sale and it was obvious the tags had been removed at some stage for whatever reason.
As Dave points out, giving coppers an inch and they'll take a mile, adding many, many hours of misery to your life.
I'm reasnobly sure I read somewhere that in SA you can't remove the tags with some clause about having a bloody good reason to do so.
I'm unpicking a rusted out cowl and putting on a good one which I'd class as a bloody good reason, but yeah, do your own research and make your own opinions.
Im sure you guys have heard of stories of tags going missing in panel shops so why would you risk leaving them on the car
when they are gone the car is worth a lot less and it has happened many times
im not saying its legal to take them off but i know plenty people who have them in storage including me
And Playwe no i didnt study law because there is enough smart arses in the world
Go to any GT nationals and the tags arent on half the phase 111's they are all in safety deposit boxes with photocopies of the tags in the window..... Makes absolutely zero difference in the ford world as all there cars are on registers and known...
Holden guys are are light years behind these ford guys.....
How can you tell when a lawyers lying
His lips are moving
Maybe on this era. Not true across the board. Not even close when it comes to Australian earlies.Originally Posted by hqgts
Fair points. We've all heard horror stories of some less than carefull panel beaters and mechanics alike. One of the reasons they are made of very light aluminium these days is that ANY sign of tampering or removal immediately raises concern and further investigation. Some are now actually a plastic transfer (bar code type with non-UV stable treatment underneath them that shags the paint or becomes very apparent if they've been removed) that will only end in tears if they have been even attempted to be removed. The older ones such as fitted to our old beasts are deemed to be tampered with and investigated even if they are even torn slightly in NSW.
That said, if they are damaged and the numbers still align with the chassis number then there should be no other questions other than a passing "what happened here mate....?"
I had my eyes opened for me by an unfortunate incident in the early 90's where a licenced mechanic working for me forgot to properly tighten a pair of front strut attach bolts on one side of a Camry front suspension. Car got about 3-400km.... You guess the rest. Was going to cost plenty in an insurance premium hike so I got active and sat down with the MTA (of the time) and actually ran through the regs with them as to what I could and couldn't do. I ended up with a pile of NSW DoT rules and regs on my desk that took me about two or three weeks to wade through, but that was enough to get the insurance company off my back. The context of this example was that contained within those docs was a short blurb about compliance plate removal and re-attaching (obviously relevant to that time) but the rules may well have changed nowadays but I doubt it.
I understand the motives of those who do remove them for all the right reasons but all you need is some officious little twit to come on heavy and you'll end up in possible hot water. We see too many of that type these days... In 2005 I had one knock me back on a pit inspection in Darwin on my HJ due to a half inch split in the stove pipe off the exhaust manifold to the air cleaner..... Living in the tropics, no real need for the quaddie's choke to really even work... B*@@er me....
Dem pwiks is everywhere....
Nunc est bibendum...
Ford only had a 10 year dream window in the muscle car era from 1968 to 1978.... Anything outside of that is just rubbish.... If you havent you should attend the gt nationals and see first hand the difference between a concours judged XY Gt and an equivalently judged monaro or torana in the same class.... Not even in the same stratosphere
Now thats bullshit ive seen plenty of monaros and toranas that would be in the same class as xy gt
infact there is a black lh slr 5000 for sale on car sales have a look then come back to me its better than original
he is also a member of the torana forum as im sure you are to
i drive my gt coupe around with no plates i would rather cop fine for not having them on than lose them have heard stories of people putting paint scrapers between bonnet and wiper panel to pop the rivets so i wouldn't leave them on even in my shed
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