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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    Holden also called Tailgates, "End Gates" there are a thousand of others. Holden parts book terminology is not something we should aspire to.
    I mean who calls a Tailshaft a Propeller Shaft? Or a Dress Rim, Wheel Embellishers?
    End gates, comes from the original incarnation of the ute and has it origins at Ford Australia. Side gates and end gates were different lengths and could be removed from the vehicle hence the different name.

    Prop shaft? About 2/3 of the world up until front wheel drive started to take on which brought a new term "CV shaft" (not to be confused with CV joint) - and then a new term: Drive shaft (or, more correctly: shaft, driven) started to surface in texts in the 70's and 80's to replace tailshaft as the sexxy "one word fits all" descriptor.

    Tongue firmly planted in cheek question for you.... How would you describe the use of the word "hubcap". Is it a big shiny chrome disc or dome shaped thing to cover a wheel rim or a small cup shaped metal device knocked into the outward facing part of a wheel bearing hub?

    The real answer to most automotive parts names locally is that we (as a country) have previously bastardised the language a bit and we still continue to.

    Some names we don't use but are quite aware of in which countries they belong: fender, wing, hood, trunk, bumper etc fall immediately to mind.
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    Yeah Prop shaft was pretty common but the full name of propeller shaft next to never unless your a Pommy.
    Where they ever got "Wing" for mudguard from I'll never know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taily View Post
    Tongue firmly planted in cheek question for you.... How would you describe the use of the word "hubcap". Is it a big shiny chrome disc or dome shaped thing to cover a wheel rim or a small cup shaped metal device knocked into the outward facing part of a wheel bearing hub?
    LOL yes I hear where your coming from. I'd say the first because the second is a grease cap not a hubcap as we know it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacier 73 View Post
    Just stick to twin head light front ffs its been like that for many years and the majority of holden fans will know what your talking about
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    It hasn't been like that for years though, it has always been four/quad and twin/two for me. It is the headlight surrounds that are single/twin.

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    Mudguard/fender, windshield/windscreen, hand brake/park brake/ E brake, bonnet/hood, boot/trunk, glove compartment/glove box etc etc.
    Trucks have a jack shaft and a tail shaft if they are boggie drive. Road trucks have a maxi brake but if you drive big trucks in a mine it's called a park brake.
    Another new one is to call utes style sides, ie HZ style side ute.
    A lot of it has to do with the amount of American TV that we are exposed to now. Words such as guys are now common place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    Yeah Prop shaft was pretty common but the full name of propeller shaft next to never unless your a Pommy.
    Where they ever got "Wing" for mudguard from I'll never know.


    LOL yes I hear where your coming from. I'd say the first because the second is a grease cap not a hubcap as we know it!
    Yep grease cap covers the grease. Hub cap covers the hub such as EH holden. Then you put a dress rim on the wheel. HZ had a wheel trim that covered the whole wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Another new one is to call utes style sides, ie HZ style side ute.
    That one annoys me. I've always known utes as a tray top if it has a tray, or just a ute (occasionally a wellback ute).

    I've always thought the recent trend of calling them a style side is just because it sounds "cool".

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    Styleside is actually a Ford term. They had styleside and stepside backs on F100. Stepside was the box back the width of the rails with the wheels covered by big guards. Styleside was like the tub you get on the back of most cab-chassis today eg SR5 Hilux. GM used the term "Fleetside" for the same thing on C20 trucks.

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    Yeah it's old terminology for a different type of commercial vehicle.

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    half console ? , no its a seat separator!
    "All correspondence must bear these numbers"

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    ^^That is another good example. Calling stuff "GTS" is another, the rims are Rally Rims, sports wheel, U21 or U17 dash etc. It is all optional across most of the series, just happened to be standard on GTS.

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