thanks guys, ill get right onto it, hope its not to late but least i didnt sell it in the end, plan to take it down to chassis n every nut and bolt changed, was going to do that for the kingswood, cant believe this information was so available, iv had it for 15 yrs and get asked all the time if its a s/m not one person could tell it had a different shell or could show me that it was a s/m, when i first asked holden i must of called brisbane, ;/ hope not too many have been thrown out because of the misunderstanding, can someone tell me the number i should have on my tyre placard, haha i also didnt know that this vehicle should not b driven over 135km for long periods of time in winter shoes haha, and if possible wot engine i should of had, hey buds i will put photo up c if u can tell wot shell it is or if its worth stickin with it,