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    Performance.

    In "standard" form, is there a noticable difference in performance between a 5 litre and a 4.2 litre engine? Ute or Van, just normal everyday driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    In "standard" form, is there a noticable difference in performance between a 5 litre and a 4.2 litre engine? Ute or Van, just normal everyday driving.

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    In a word..... absolutely

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    sean...id say no because he asked is there a noticable difference for everday driving...
    there is definately power differences as shown in your figures...

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    Really????

    My 253 auto VB SL sedan was noticeably more ecomomical than dads 308 auto VK wagon and the wagon was very noticeably more powerful.... owned both back in 84 and both were bog standard factory engines.
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    it really comes down to diff ratio and how you drive the car..if you dawdle then there is really no difference..if you are a bit heavy on the throttle from the lights there would be a difference if you were driving a 253 auto with a 3.55 diff and your mate was driving a 308 auto with a 2.78 diff...you with 253 would be gone....way way too many variants to answer his question without personally seeing his driving style...:knockout::knockout::knockout:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    Really????

    My 253 auto VB SL sedan was noticeably more ecomomical than dads 308 auto VK wagon and the wagon was very noticeably more powerful.... owned both back in 84 and both were bog standard factory engines.
    your vb sl 253 would have been a 2 barrel with points dizzy and your dads vk was 4 barrel with electronic...what were the diff ratios??

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    My 84 wb with 4.2 and m20 3.36 diff gets flogged by my brothers 82 wb with 4.2 m20 3.08 diff. It also flogged the 83 wb I had with 4.2 m20 3.36 diff.
    The engines have both been rebuilt by the same machine shop and run the same cams. When I say flogged, I mean around town at the lights and definately on the highway.
    I know that the 3.08 should be slower off the mark but I think that you can run it longer between gear changes gives it heaps more advantage in a drag.
    As far as standard cars go, I reckon my other brothers wb statesman with 3.08 diff had more balls than any 253 I have ever driven. For a big car that old 5 litre used to get up and boogie.

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