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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Just think about the result of a speaker box thrown at your head at 100km an hour.
    Really good point, especially with modern heavy magnet speaker drivers in them! Also consider the passengers head!

    I was gonna do a decent post here, but I havent got time atm, but if it helps answer the question, the original (mono speaker) for the AM radio mounts under the top of the dash (not the bottom) between the demister vents. If you look from the top, between the dash and the windscreen, you will see the dome heads of four capscrews (or if they are not there) four holes just outside the corners of the factory cut speaker grill slots which are arranged in a rectangle. Measuring the bolt holes centre to centre will give you the dimensions you need a replacement speaker to provide as mounting points.

    The original speaker was a Plessey/Rola unit (manufacturer). It had a very average frequency responce for a speaker of that size by todays standards, but was quite acceptable at the time, it matched the radio well. Using a flash high end modern speaker will make very little difference to either sound quality or volume if teamed with the original radio, you are best off finding a cheapy that fits properly, it needs to be fairly compact, and have no part of the 'cone' or these days maybe cone(s) that extends above the mounting frame. For this application you wouldnt want to spend more than around 20 bucks and you'd get a pair for that price. If you cant find one, and need to use a two or three way, that does have elments that extend beyond the mounting frame you may be able to use a spacer, but there isnt that much room from memory, considering the size of some magnets these days. You dont want a large magnet in there anyway, its field may impose on the voltage regulators in the dash, which are much more difficult (and expensive) to rectify if they go wrong, and after all, they are getting old!

    You could google plessy/rola auto speaker replacement perhaps, I havent tried this, so I dunno what youll get, but, I'd say for just one speaker as a genuine replacement it should be about 8 bucks.

    I like your approach of fitting the original radio and speaker in their original placement. I will definately be doing this in both my vans, for cruising in old skool mode, (however I will also have a kick arse system that operates independantly as well - but even then, personally I will avoid the kick panels - all sorts of reasons).

    But your best answer is to measure up those holes, if the bolts are still there, the speaker probably is too, but likely perished due to sun etc, its only little wing nuts fastening it in, you'll need to remove the glovebox to get to them, watch you dont dislodge your demister pipes, - demister is way more important than sound.

    If you have the old unit, take into the shop and see what matches up, even the cheapest these days should be better than the old unit was originally. Otherwise measure the holes centre to centre and see what you can find - you may find a unit you can drill the mounting frame of in a couple of places to fit the dash holes . But for this application on the orig radio, go cheap, low output, small magnet.

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    Yeah the AM radio. Do you know what size the holes are under the dash?

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    Oh, and P.S. if you are using the original radio, you need to make sure that the impedance of the new speaker matches it. That is; the impedance (in ohms - abreviated with an omega symbol) should be the same as the original speaker, dunno what they were off hand, cant find out at this time of night (lol) the radio may have a lable on its output giving min ohms, maybe.

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    All car sound equipment as far as I remember is 4 Ohms if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HZSM50 View Post
    All car sound equipment as far as I remember is 4 Ohms if that helps.
    The more modern stuff is typically 4 ohms but it is not true of all car speakers. Early Holdens are 15 ohms, so always check.

    Here is an option for you.
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-HQ...-/111190839929

    hq-hz_dash_speaker_conversion_zpsc7ad4438.jpg

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    That's correct yes, it's been some time since I have played with older equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    The more modern stuff is typically 4 ohms but it is not true of all car speakers. Early Holdens are 15 ohms, so always check.

    Here is an option for you.
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-HQ...-/111190839929

    hq-hz_dash_speaker_conversion_zpsc7ad4438.jpg
    Nice find Innuendo, I didnt realise these were available in Australia. I had seen similar online avail in the US for old Chevs etc. They look like a good unit.
    I'm interested to know how it sounds Matt!

    Incidentally, and without meaning to seem shamelessly commercial, it happens that I actually have a retail quantity of high power car amplifiers, subwoofers, 6 x 9s and 6.5 speakers which I need to do something about selling at some stage. These are all made in China, but its the best gear China produces in this area, seriously good frequency response characteristics, big power etc.

    I had intended when I purchased them, to set up an e-business, but the problem I had with selling them was legal liability. When they arrived I realised the magnets are big enough in the 6 x 9 and 6.5 drivers that the weight of the speakers could cause injury to passengers in a fast stop driving situation if not securely mounted and went flying across the cabin. I also had to know that a purchaser would (for instance) securely mount a subwoofer, or (for instance) correctly wire an amp so as not to overload the cars electrical system - as the importer I can (technically) be liable for any damage... and injury....!!

    So, not having the legal protection of a corporation (and not wanting any purchaser to cause injury to themselves) I just shelved the project (and the stock).

    I have been considering for a while making them available on auto enthusiast websites, its all great gear, just needs to be properly installed by somebody who knows what they are doing, not just any kid with big eyes for sound gear buying off evil bay.

    Anyway, it's not the right gear for the purposes of this thread (re-installing the original radio and speaker) but in terms of an alternate system, these things really produce the goods, I have four types of mosfet amps all genuinely around 240 RMS continuous, bridgeable , 4 channel, 5 channel (one ch for the sub) can be daisy chained, remote power on/off, adjustable HP or LP filter etc. They pull around 30A though....! 6x9s genuine 60 RMS continuous.

    If anyone is interested I'll start another thread in the for sale section. But this is pretty high power gear, it needs proper installation and correctly fused direct off the battery, etc.

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    As I said. I don't go fanging around in my van. It is also possible to secure them to the body with smaller holes, rather than cutting away at you pride and joy. At the end of the day it's your choice where they go there are so many places for them to go.

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    Just suggesting that it could be dangerous. Bolt them in. Someone else might be at fault.
    Get a second set of inspection covers and bolt them to those? Keep the good ones for later.

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    Thanks again. Loads of help. I do like the under dash speaker box. Just want it out the way. I'll need to find out the ohm of the old am radio

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