my opinion lm not willing to say what price its worth with out seeing it in flesh everyone here seems to have there own opinion at the end of day the price that you will get is what a buyer is willing to pay
my opinion lm not willing to say what price its worth with out seeing it in flesh everyone here seems to have there own opinion at the end of day the price that you will get is what a buyer is willing to pay
Your looking at at least 10K for paint let alone anything else.. With original motor maybe worth more?
Gene you are spot on in that thinking and I 100% agree, but until you see and suss it out it might be a $5,000 parts car! Or it might be a $15k pearler.Originally Posted by Glacier 73
Seriously though, in as immaculate, original condition that one of these can be today (as a benchmark I use my HJ Prem which still has faults but it is in the condition of a well cared for 10 year old car) a HZ Sandman 308 van in Atlantis blue will struggle to top $25k-$30k. Take away the engine, has a modified box, add side windows, most likely will require some driveline, brakes, suspension work, paint isn't original (don't know what's underneath). I reckon if the rest of the car is as good as my Prem that all adds up to $15k. If the car can be used and driven as is without $1000's spent then maybe $17k. However my money would be on it needing a total freshen up, maybe even some paint which if it is straight can be done at home with air dried acrylic. A car like that to me drops to below $10k, but is still a good one to get if the body is really good as you can spend as much on body repairs as you can on paint.
Add rust and panel repairs in and i'd walk away at $5k, i'd rather buy someone's restored but not original car for $25k, it'll be cheaper in the end!
Add rust and panel repairs in and i'd walk away at $5k, i'd rather buy someone's restored but not original car for $25k, it'll be cheaper in the end![/QUOTE]
only problem is that very few have $25K and even fewer have common sense. many many more have $5-10K and will pay to 'enjoy' the journey of restorin. believe me the phone rings off the hook for anything sub 10K and once you get above 15 and into the 20's and 30's you may as well go visit a dealership with the drawstring on your strides pre loosened
BQZ
I reckon the first thing you need to do is know what you want at the end of the day. If you dont have any mechanical ability, pay the dough, buy a good runner someone else has spent their money on and enjoy it. If you love restoring old cars, enjoy the chase of hard to find bits and have the ability to do a first rate job buy whatever suits you. And either way its a better investment than 99.9% of the new stuff.
That's easy. Last one advertised here locally almost matched Paul's description to a T. Blue, had windows, 308, manual changed to auto, no GTS wheels, all other parts present. Paint needed minor touch ups on the roof and the rest was perfectly presentable. Car was advertised for $10k and sat on the market for a month. The difference between it and the one listed above was that this one hadn't been sitting idle in a shed for 10 years. It was registered and the new owner flew up and drove it 800k home. The paint was the correct colour too.
I realise it's hard to give a true value without pics but unless the OP is the most understated man in history theres no way it's worth $15,000 from that description.
I bought my HZ for $16K. Then spent twice that on a restore. Just as a guide to all. Think what you have done to your rides, and the cost involved. You will see that most go you are spot on with your assessment of this vans value. Buying a van ready to go I think would be a cheaper way to own one, but you miss out on the joy of seeing things and doing work on you van. Then seeing the end result, I know that not everyone has the time, patience or money to do this. So buying one all done or very little to do is a good way to go. People are always asking me " how much is my van worth" I reply " how much are you willing to pay me for it!"
Just out of interest, Ive just had my toranas body all done. I know its not a van, but as a comparison anyway... It had rust in the usual places, plenum/cowling, door bottoms, rear quarters, guards etc... Getting all the rust cut out and new panels handmade and welded in etc cost me $4500. I did a bit of sanding then gave up when I realised i just wasnt gunna be able to find the time. I had a great local bloke do it for me, some in his shed and the rest at his workplace. With all panels/spoilers muckin around etc and at backyard job rates, it came to $8000. So thats $12500 right there. Theres more panel surface areas on a van but probably not as much messin around with flares/spoilers etc so that gives you an idea. Pretty hard to get away with less than 15k on a body resto these days.
Nice work Hainzy!!
I really need to find the time to start my resto. Getting harder now that ive joined another band. My hobbies are so time consuming
Last edited by Alien DNA; 16-11-2013 at 09:19 PM.
I discussed your Torana with the missus, Hainzy. She wants one haha WooohoooJust out of interest, Ive just had my toranas body all done. I know its not a van, but as a comparison anyway... It had rust in the usual places, plenum/cowling, door bottoms, rear quarters, guards etc... Getting all the rust cut out and new panels handmade and welded in etc cost me $4500. I did a bit of sanding then gave up when I realised i just wasnt gunna be able to find the time. I had a great local bloke do it for me, some in his shed and the rest at his workplace. With all panels/spoilers muckin around etc and at backyard job rates, it came to $8000. So thats $12500 right there. Theres more panel surface areas on a van but probably not as much messin around with flares/spoilers etc so that gives you an idea. Pretty hard to get away with less than 15k on a body resto these days.
It's so good.
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