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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Thanks HK1837 I'll now classify it as a 'could be' . Ta
    If the number on the chassis matches the chassis number on the plate than it is at the very least a Sandman that's had a body swap.... More likely the tags were removed to re-paint the car as that red it is currently painted is not Madeira red.

    Plenty of people take the tags off their car to re-paint it and then rivet the tags back on.... Other times it can be because the body was swapped.
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

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    To Absinth, so is it a safe bet that I am dealing with a genuine Sandman???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    To Absinth, so is it a safe bet that I am dealing with a genuine Sandman???
    What a great site this is!!!! Hope everyone had a terrific Christmas Day.

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    As absinth said check the chassis number there are a few ways to check original body or body parts for hz
    Cut outs in stone tray for spoiler spoiler was standard on hz sandman
    Black door handles
    Black outs over original paint around doors ,sills ,beaver etc
    Evidence of decal or paint variation inside lip of guards and door etc
    Off coarse double head light front end
    Full length head lining comby thing
    Tyre placard number on clove box
    I know these things can be changed individually but the more off them you have points to sandman body
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    Thanks Rodney. Much appreciated. Yesterday hk1837 told me that the plates I posted were off a HZ Sandman XX7.
    The plates are not stamped XX7 though. I thought XX7 meant built in Brisbane? The plates I posted indicate built in Sydney.
    I'm confused. Also , how much is a fair price for a Sandman with the plates I posted and the restoration appears to be very good all round? I don't want to get ripped. Ta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    To Absinth, so is it a safe bet that I am dealing with a genuine Sandman???
    Yes.... And in my opinion there is nothing wrong with a body swap if it is done correctly..... Assuming it has had one

    as Rodney says, check over the body for tell tales and you'll probably find its just had a re-paint...

    tags are genuine Sandman, if tags match chassis your good to go....

    Value..... Up to you with the info you have received, you're buying it... I recently bought a HJ Sandman van for $6000 mostly original with most of the interior missing and thought I was paying top dollar for it...... Others on here thought it was a bargain....

    I have a HX Sandman van with a rusted out body but tags match chassis.... It will get a body swap when I find a suitable body for it.
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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    Sand mans are still xx7 build code or cu4 no mater what factory they where built in the difference is they were only stamped with that the code if Brisbane build
    HZ jasmine yellow sandman van
    HZ Madeira red sandman van (now sold to bigrob)
    HX mandarin red sandman ute
    HZ malachite green sandman van
    Married to Jennie285

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Also , how much is a fair price for a Sandman with the plates I posted and the restoration appears to be very good all round? I don't want to get ripped. Ta.
    If its been fully restored then anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000. Post up some good pics of exterior and interior and guys on here will give their opinions. A lot depends on how good the workmanship is and how accurate toe resto is.... IE, correct parts for that model, correct colour and interior.

    all Sandmans are either XU3 or XX7. In your case the van is a de-rated one so is an XX7.... Yes only Brisbane build cars were stamped with the production code XX7.
    Last edited by Absinth; 26-12-2013 at 10:28 AM.
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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    So, if the chassis number matches the tags, and the restoration is 8 or 9 out of ten would 45k be too much?

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    That's top dollar.... It would want to be a 10/10 van for $45,000..... From your photos of the plates it doesn't look like it's painted Madeira red so not 10/10 ..... Unless the light and angle of the pic has lightened the colour.
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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