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    Feel sad for the worker's. The Labor & Liberal governments are at fault, not the unions.
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    Farmers have been competing against world subsidised markets for ever. It is nearly impossible.
    However, the subsidies that keep Holden in Australia are funded by our tax payments. We are paying to employ each other. That is a futile and pointless thing to do.

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    I could also bet that all the people who complain about Holden withdrawing from Australia have a house full of stuff made in China like everyone else. That includes the Holden workers losing their jobs.

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    It's a free market... Well said WB!

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    It would be well and good to blame imported cars if.... Holden was Australian owned. It is no more Australian than toyota cars manufactured in Australia or Ford cars manufactured in Australia.
    Sad day though for the next generation. The baby boomers sure did get to make the most of the good times. The rest of us now have to pick up the pieces.

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    I don't totally agree with that innuendo... It's up to the current gov to either fix or break problems when in power. Granted its more Detroit doing the axing. Same blame with labour and ford.

    What happened to abbotts election promise of creating one million jobs? So far it's just been loss after loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    I don't totally agree with that innuendo... It's up to the current gov to either fix or break problems when in power. Granted its more Detroit doing the axing. Same blame with labour and ford.

    What happened to abbotts election promise of creating one million jobs? So far it's just been loss after loss.
    I get the feeling your very anti Liberal government. I don't know about the promise of a million jobs. But if he did then it's of no surprise that's what politicians do! Whatever the case a business has to stand on it's own merits. The government doesn't support my business nor do I expect them to. GM is again making money worldwide and is back to being successful. Ford on the other hand is still faltering globally.

    Electrolux in Orange, Simplot and Downer EDI in Bathurst are in the exact same boat. All have their hands out wanting the government to throw cash at them.
    It's always with the threat of loss of jobs (and these are the ones I hear about I'm sure they're others all over the country).

    I for one am happy the government is getting tough on the handing out of cash. The mess left by the Labor government has to be cleaned up and Australia needs to hurt a little before things can be put right. It's been a big cushy ride for a whole generation. Kids driving $50K+ cars and building brand new monster houses all filled up with new tech at 25 years and younger. Then whinging the 60K-80K a year they're on isn't anywhere near enough!

    I do and will continue to enjoy my Holden's. Should Holden become a thing of the past that will only increase the desirability of what we all enjoy. Brands come and go, successful businesses get taken over by more successful businesses. Australia by distance and population is a pimple on an elephants arse. GM are making a business decision. I don't think the Australian government (us Australian's) should be bailing out or propping up unsuccessful or no longer viable business models just to save jobs. Just because you obtained a job/employment doesn't mean it's guaranteed for life. The workers have seen the writing on the wall for months or longer and they should have already starting making alternative arrangements for employment.

    Yeah it's sad, but so are a lot of things.

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    Remember also that the last true Aussie built Holden product was the VZ. A significant amount of the VE is built overseas and imported here for assembly. I don't think it is as much as the Cruze, but it is still a slow decline towards the inevitable. None of this is new for GMH though, cars like the Gemini and even the original HB Torana were done this way if I remember my history correctly (Dr Terry will correct me if he sees this!).

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    With no local car I don't see the point of running the Holden brand. They have sold cars here before as Chevys they may as well again.

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    The ad on TV for Opel cars has bothered me since I 1st saw it and I remember saying to my wife that I reckon Holden will be gone in name before too long.
    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    With no local car I don't see the point of running the Holden brand. They have sold cars here before as Chevys they may as well again.

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