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    It was on the cards years ago it was just a matter of time
    well done australia thats what you get for buying foreign cheap cars where all guilty of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by mckackie View Post


    i got the shivers when i heard the announcement on the radio. so devo.

    might go get some RIP HOLDEN 2017 stickers made up and bang em on my VK commy

    wonder what will happen to RARES etc
    BQZ

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    Plenty of market for bits to keep all the cr@ppy diesel rubbish running once warranty runs out. Ask Dr Terry what the market is like for bits for these!

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    I could really kick Abbott in the sphincter right now...as im sure all the Holden employees would too. Its a dark day :(

    Wonder what will happen to the V8 Supercar Series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    I have never really understood why we all have to prop up Holden and Ford anyway. There are a lot of other industries in Australia that get bugger all support and provide much more essential products.
    Because the local manufacturers are competing with manufacturers from overseas that are very heavily government subsidised.

    I know it sounds like a lot of money being thrown at our local manufacturers over the last 10 years or so (and hey lets be honest here, it is) but the playing field is not level for our local manufacturers to compete against subsidised imports without being subsidised themselves. These much championed "Free Trade Agreements" are anything but free in practice. James, you try and export wheat, meat or whatever you like to the USA and you'll also find you wouldn't be competitive because of local primary production subsidies, still standing tariffs and of course our high dollar. Holden wanted to recently export the VF ute to the USA and sell it as a Chev (El Camino I guess). Congress would not budge on removing an obscure clause from their legislation from early last century that meant it was to be hit with a 35% import tariff as it was a light commercial import, combined with a dollar at too close to parity.
    We need to revisit tariffs so that this scenario will not continue to play out again and again due to foreign governments using the "GFC excuse" to subsidise their local ecconomies out of debt. Many people (it would appear Joe Hockey included) don't seem to get it....
    Nunc est bibendum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien DNA View Post
    I could really kick Abbott in the sphincter right now...as im sure all the Holden employees would too. Its a dark day :(

    Wonder what will happen to the V8 Supercar Series?
    Kicking Abbott will do no good, would be like kicking Obama for the Manhattan Project. This scenario has been developing for years.

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    One sector that hasn't got much of a mention in this whole affair is the union movement. The auto workers unions are very strong (read militant) & it goes without saying that these large manufacturing plants are very unionized working environments. Some of the wages & conditions there are unheard in the real world.

    Some of those enterprise agreements are a little over generous.

    If these guys were working at say 10-20% above award wages (instead of the gravy train that there on currently) Holden & Toyota wouldn't need handouts to survive at all.

    Dr Terry

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    I have heard somewhere between $80-100K for what amounts to a process worker, but I wasn't sure of the voracity of the information. If it is true then no wonder they cannot compete... We do have a high standard of living but not that high.
    Nunc est bibendum...

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    I find it shameful that of all the government fleet cars, only 1/3rd of them are Aussie built. I just heard that the next roll out of fleet cars will be replaced with BMWs and other euro vehicles.

    Vegemite, Victa mowers, Hills Hoists....now Holden. Are there any other iconic oz brands left?

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    Feel sad for the worker's. The Labor & Liberal governments are at fault, not the unions.
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