Is my HQ ute a Sandman?

[HK1837]

30E is normal black trim for 1974 HQ Kingswood for both bench and buckets.

You'll never pick whether it is a Sandman or not for ID plates. Your best bet is to clear out between the buckets and take a photo of the tunnel between the seats. The only other indicator will be original paint blackouts. Is the speedo 120 or 140MPH (plus the dual scale metric bits)?

Inny, standard diff in this case is a 3.08, if it was a 3.36 it'd have GV2 stamped. 3.36 is standard behind 308 in HQ.

If it is a Sandman it is only the 4th 1885 (Burgundy) one I have recorded and the first Kingswood ute (Sandman or not) in that colour. DO you have the chassis number? Will be close to DHQ20000M but I can't narrow it down much more as I don't have many Dandenong HQ's from this time recorded.

[Innuendo]

Inny, standard diff in this case is a 3.08, if it was a 3.36 it'd have GV2 stamped. 3.36 is standard behind 308 in HQ.

My records show 253 4 Speed V8 diff ratio 3.36:1 as Standard and 3.55:1 as Performance. 3.08:1 for 3 Speed manual. If it was optioned to 3.08:1 the plate should be stamped GU4.
Either way I did my best with what I had when I answered.

I'm glad you agree 30E is Black Kingswood and doesn't exclude it from being a Sandman. Blocker needs to revise the website to allow HQ Kingswood Ute's to have 30E and NOT exclusive to 30B (which a Kingswood would never had). I'd like to know if 30E is '74 Kingswood exclusive?

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My records show 253 4 Speed V8 diff ratio 3.36:1 as Standard and 3.55:1 as Performance. 3.08:1 for 3 Speed manual. If it was optioned to 3.08:1 the plate should be stamped GU4.
Either way I did my best with what I had when I answered.

I'm glad you agree 30E is Black Kingswood and doesn't exclude it from being a Sandman. Blocker needs to revise the website to allow HQ Kingswood Ute's to have 30E and NOT exclusive to 30B (which a Kingswood would never had). I'd like to know if 30E is '74 Kingswood exclusive?

Tell me where and what needs to be changed and I'll have it done asap.
Is it the line in the HQ Details page? Should I include 30E or remove it all togther?

[Innuendo]

Tell me where and what needs to be changed and I'll have it done asap.
Is it the line in the HQ Details page? Should I include 30E or remove it all togther?

http://www.mysandman.com.au/site/ind...identification

Yeah include but 30B = Belmont Trim, 30E Kingswood (Utility) Trim No such thing as a HQ Kingswood Panel Van

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http://www.mysandman.com.au/site/ind...identification

Yeah include but 30B = Belmont Trim, 30E Kingswood (Utility) Trim No such thing as a HQ Kingswood Panel Van

OK done.
If other corrections need to be made please let me know.


Any word on this Burgundy 'Sandman' ute? I might give him a call if the OP doesn't contact me, because just getting a positive ID and having the details would be good for Byron.

[Innuendo]

OK done.
If other corrections need to be made please let me know.

Did you emend the Sandman ID Guide?

Any word on this Burgundy 'Sandman' ute? I might give him a call if the OP doesn't contact me, because just getting a positive ID and having the details would be good for Byron.

Auction has ended early!

[playwme]

Auction has ended early!

It'll be back. Probably starting at $15000 as a "possible Sandman" though.

[HK1837]

My records show 253 4 Speed V8 diff ratio 3.36:1 as Standard and 3.55:1 as Performance. 3.08:1 for 3 Speed manual. If it was optioned to 3.08:1 the plate should be stamped GU4.
Either way I did my best with what I had when I answered.

I'm glad you agree 30E is Black Kingswood and doesn't exclude it from being a Sandman. Blocker needs to revise the website to allow HQ Kingswood Ute's to have 30E and NOT exclusive to 30B (which a Kingswood would never had). I'd like to know if 30E is '74 Kingswood exclusive?

3.08 is the standard 253 manual diff ratio from HT-HJ, 3.36 is the standard 308 4spd ratio. The standard 253 manual diff ratio changed to 3.55 in HX and although not readily documented appears to go to 3.36 some time in HZ. So a HQ V8 Kingswood ute will be blank if it is 3.08 (option code GV1) or will have GV2 if it is 3.36.

Yes, that's right, E trim is standard vinyl HQ Kingswood or Monaro trim except for a few specials with other codes. A and B trims (bench and bucket) are HQ Belmont or HQ cab chassis only. C and D are Belmont with cloth inserts (HQ SS). J is another Kingswood vinyl. G and K are Kingswood with cloth insert. Plus there is another HQ Kingswood "sports" with an insert trim that i'm not sure on the code of.

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Plus there is another HQ Kingswood "sports" with an insert trim that i'm not sure on the code of.

The 'sports' codes are all in the 80's,using A & B and probably the nicest of the Kingswood trims, only available during the middle of 74 and so far appear to be sedan only.

30E isn't 74 Kingswood exclusive, the new codes started along with the introduction of the GTS/4 in Feb 73.

[HK1837]

The 'sports' codes are all in the 80's,using A & B and probably the nicest of the Kingswood trims, only available during the middle of 74 and so far appear to be sedan only.

30E isn't 74 Kingswood exclusive, the new codes started along with the introduction of the GTS/4 in Feb 73.

I think it is sedan only Leroy. There is a ute and van "sports" which got called Sandman but still appears in documentation as sports, but these didn't get the special trim as we know.