I agree with all you have said Byron. They are very over priced so XW is an option, South AFtrican car would just be to enjoy not really re-sale, and not about to spen big $$ on it either. There are a few around here still in sheds, and I know of a couple locally, and as they are older guys may want to sell when retiring to the coast, or hoping they do hehe. Unless their kids want them or want them to sell onto me at a greater rate. Anyways I can wait until the right one comes along. I am just content with what we have, I inquired about GTS van, but he has pulled it off the market, which is good as its a lovely van, and I am glad he is keeping it for now.