Yep you always read " has a small 5cent bubble of rust nothing major " but when you cut it out you are up for a full scuttle panel or a 1/4 . So what you see through the paint is good but what's hiding behind isn't ,my hx sedan is the best I've seen nothing in floors or scuttle( plenum area ) only some over rear arches where the mud sat and straight to boot need a rear door , dinged but can put on road if I pulled finger out , too many cars to think about and no cash. Lol