Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
i must admit people seem to get a bit funny about HSV, after all i thought HSV stood for "Holden Special Vehicles", so as far as iam concerned the GTO, GTS, COUPE 4 all started life as a Monaros.
Yes, that's basically true, but HSV is a separate privately owned entity & are officially classified by the Govt. as a separate manufacturer.

This is my point about the Mazda3 supposedly being the top selling car in Australia. Once again Holden have 'one hand tied behind their back'.

If you add the Commodore sales, ute sales (which are still VF Holdens), then add the LWB (Caprice) & the HSVs (which are all Commodore-based), this makes Commodore the top seller. But that's not how it's done.

Dr Terry