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    Yeah I think you might find younger generations have different memories and desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Yeah I think you might find younger generations have different memories and desires.
    That's exactly what I believe, their experiences will form their choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamenco_not_Flamingo View Post
    That's exactly what I believe, their experiences will form their choices.
    So what will all the car mags be talking about in the future then ?? Kia's and Cherry's. They will keep the young educated.

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    Very interesting thread. the fact that so many variants have been mentioned indicate that there is no stand out future collectors car.

    Stuff like the HSV coupe 4/w427 etc, undoubtedly will be collectables because they already are. In saying that the cost big bucks when new and they still cost big bucks on the second hand car market .... so I dont think we will see a repeat like the Bathurst specials of the 70s which dropped considerable before shooting up.

    In my opinion the cv8R and cv8Z monaros wont be any more collectable than other monaros of this generation, because they weren't anything extra special just marketing by Holden, just 'run our' models which had different wheels and other options already ticked - if they were different performance wise, with maybe better handling suspension components or hotted up motors then yes.

    I think anything that is kept in original condition and is looked after, is what will bring the money, but nothing will ever get ridiculously high, I think it will just be proportional to what it cost hen new. If you have a future 'modern' collectable dont be afraid not to drive it, yes baby it but take it out more often. I dont understand why one would pay rego and insurance waiting for a car to increase in value when any real profit would of been lost, at least drive and enjoy more than once a year. Yes a car with 5k kms will be worth more than the car with 50k kms but not by much.

    Someone asked who will buy our Sandmans one day? Realistically one day demand for these will drop as the later generations grow up not even knowing what a Sandman or a panelvan for that matter is. For example I'm a Gen Y, and a mate I used to go to school with, bought and restored a vw kombi van - yes he surfs. But I thought to myself why a Kombi and not a Sandman/pv or something like eh/falcon/valiant wagon, aren't these what 'surfo's' drove inthe day. Here lies the problem they dont know about them because of stuff like the Internet which shrinks the world and all of a sudden they think they are re-living past 'glory days' because some bloke in the US did the same thing. I think you get what I'm trying to say.

    I hope I havnt offended anyone just sharing my thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbs77 View Post
    Very interesting thread. the fact that so many variants have been mentioned indicate that there is no stand out future collectors car.

    Stuff like the HSV coupe 4/w427 etc, undoubtedly will be collectables because they already are. In saying that the cost big bucks when new and they still cost big bucks on the second hand car market .... so I dont think we will see a repeat like the Bathurst specials of the 70s which dropped considerable before shooting up.

    In my opinion the cv8R and cv8Z monaros wont be any more collectable than other monaros of this generation, because they weren't anything extra special just marketing by Holden, just 'run our' models which had different wheels and other options already ticked - if they were different performance wise, with maybe better handling suspension components or hotted up motors then yes.

    I think anything that is kept in original condition and is looked after, is what will bring the money, but nothing will ever get ridiculously high, I think it will just be proportional to what it cost hen new. If you have a future 'modern' collectable dont be afraid not to drive it, yes baby it but take it out more often. I dont understand why one would pay rego and insurance waiting for a car to increase in value when any real profit would of been lost, at least drive and enjoy more than once a year. Yes a car with 5k kms will be worth more than the car with 50k kms but not by much.

    Someone asked who will buy our Sandmans one day? Realistically one day demand for these will drop as the later generations grow up not even knowing what a Sandman or a panelvan for that matter is. For example I'm a Gen Y, and a mate I used to go to school with, bought and restored a vw kombi van - yes he surfs. But I thought to myself why a Kombi and not a Sandman/pv or something like eh/falcon/valiant wagon, aren't these what 'surfo's' drove inthe day. Here lies the problem they dont know about them because of stuff like the Internet which shrinks the world and all of a sudden they think they are re-living past 'glory days' because some bloke in the US did the same thing. I think you get what I'm trying to say.

    I hope I havnt offended anyone just sharing my thoughts
    Brilliantly articulated.

    No offence here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegmh View Post
    So what will all the car mags be talking about in the future then ?? Kia's and Cherry's. They will keep the young educated.
    Some people I know that aren't that young rave about how great their Kia is.

    I don't own one and never will, but to each their own, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamenco_not_Flamingo View Post
    Some people I know that aren't that young rave about how great their Kia is.

    I don't own one and never will, but to each their own, lol
    No wonder Holden is going under. Why would anyone buy a Kia ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegmh View Post
    No wonder Holden is going under. Why would anyone buy a Kia ???
    Because from what I understand of new car sales most people buying new cars are of an age that want tech savvy gagets like self park, blind spot monitoring, parking cameras/sensors, adaptive cruise control, voice activated entertainment apps that can go online/synch with your phone while you're out and about, auto lights and wipers, every power option for anything that moves (or is likely to move) in the car, heated/cooled seats that give their poor overworked derriers a massage on the 2km blast home from the gym, light sensitive mirrors, those LED day running lights, auto opening tailgates, keyless entry, 500 cubby holes to lose stuff in, 50 inch ferris wheels wrapped in licorice strips, 8 speed paddle shifted overstressed 1.2 ltr engine that delivers 12Nm of torque and revs to something just short of a telephone number blah blah blah the list goes on.

    On the other hand it wasn't all that long ago we had to option aircon, power steer, central locking, power windows and even a radio, so I guess times change and certain technology becomes a standard included item such as ABS, IRS, airbags etc. These type of tech advances I get. I just seem a little bemused by what the people who swallow the "a new car must have" bollocks various marketing companies and even motor writers seem hell bant on making their own preferences known in print.

    It seems the market has moved away from a decent, safe and "engaging" drive that had a few niceties fitted to make the car to your own taste. I know I am a dinosaur in so far as wanting a bit of grunt, some reasonable and predictable handling, good brakes and room in my car to stretch out in and effortlessly cruise from say Sydney to Brissie or similar. Air and steer and a few safety items are a given, but I'm happy enough to actually want to drive and park my own car (rather than a computer) so really have no need of much of the techy gagetry. Actually Ford, I'll do you a deal - strip $10K of the gagetry out of the last XR8 and give us an extra 10psi over the standard offering from the blown V8 and just watch how many of them go marching out the door a bit like the V8 Redline that I read there is a 4-5 month backlog/waiting list on.

    Why would anyone buy a Kia? I might suggest it is a different generation making their decision based upon what techy gagets they get chucked in - and they want it all for nothing too.
    Last edited by Taily; 09-03-2014 at 04:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taily View Post
    various marketing companies
    That's it right there Tailey, nailed it, creating a perceived need and developing a void which the consumer just has to fill.

    Using what ever the buttons required to motivate :- emotional, status,safety, belonging etc.

    It's not about creating a product, its about creating a market.

    There is nothing new under the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegmh View Post
    No wonder Holden is going under. Why would anyone buy a Kia ???
    Isn't Kia Korean for Jaguar?

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