Only one choice

Flamenco_not_Flamingo · 09-03-2014, 10:18 PM

My one and only choice would change on a daily basis , lol

**HJRAY** · 10-03-2014, 12:21 AM

Each to their own I guess! Does it realy matter whats collectable in the future? In 30 years time?
I own a few cars that I love one of them a fe holden with 9 inch little hotty 202 and I love it! Pre seat belts and no radio!
My sons recon its a death trap and refuse to even get in it! No seatbelts or air bags they think im mad! They dont think its a classic!
I also own a magic hg 350 gts which they think is cool and argue who will get it in the will lol! But they also say its so primitive! Compared to my vf gts they are right, old 350 donk and power glide am radio no air con but does have power steer at least compared to full alloy blown and injected 6.2 6 speed with all the tricks the point is that in their eyes the new gts is a collectors car for the future! I wont be around to see the out come so I will enjoy then all now!

**HK1837** · 10-03-2014, 07:17 PM

The confusion comes around because the parent Company is called Holden. So people think everything created or sold under the banner of the parent company is a Holden. If the Company was called GM Australia Holdings or whatever would the HSV's be called "GM Holdings"? I doubt it. Today the Holden car is branded as a Holden nothing else, and they are in a partnership with another entity in a separate division called HSV. No real difference to the relationship between Toyota and Lexus except Lexus is the luxury division of Toyota whereas HSV is the performance division of Holden (the Company). So HSV's as far as I am aware are sold through a different network (although far closer than a Lexus), warranted differently, even counted differently sales wise. meaning no matter what anyone thinks a Monaro is a Holden, sold as a Holden Monaro. A GTO or a GTS is NOT a Monaro. Never will be. Exactly the same way a GTS will never be a Commodore. Just like a Ford Ranger will never be a Mazda BT-50. The cars branded as a Holden are what is meant when the words "a Holden" are used. The HSBV equivalent is "a HSV". I think the only HSV products ever to be branded or sold as a Holden are the first 2 x Group A's they built as they were built for Holden and not sold as a HSV, and also the Vauxhall Monaro which was a HSV product. I get people lump things together and call them by the most common or most recognisable brand, like sailboards became "Windsurfers". Doesn't make it correct or right or even logical.
The same applied when teh parent was GMH. The only thing sold by GMH that was a Holden was the Holden car, ie 48/215 to WB. The rest were Torana, Gemini, Statesman etc. GMH assembled and manufactured Chevrolet, Pontiac, Bedford, Isuzu etc. and they remained as Bedford, Isuzu, Chevrolet etc, they didn't suddenly become a "General Motors" or a "GM Holden".

**markagregory** · 10-03-2014, 07:34 PM

my choice, WB Caprice, series 2............. have 2 of them and love them.

**HK1837** · 10-03-2014, 07:50 PM

^^And won't be too many left eventually as they are still being raped for parts.

**markagregory** · 10-03-2014, 08:10 PM

i have collected alot of wb parts over the last 5 years, .... im toying with the idea of a wb magnum van styling with a hz windowless body i have been storing. like the famous ute! but a van. any thoughts ? i personally love the wb magnum blue ute.

**wbute** · 12-03-2014, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by markagregory

i have collected alot of wb parts over the last 5 years, .... im toying with the idea of a wb magnum van styling with a hz windowless body i have been storing. like the famous ute! but a van. any thoughts ? i personally love the wb magnum blue ute.

That blue ute has been proven a fake. It was made from parts from a wrecked Magnum Statesman. The only real Magnum ute was built in 1987 from a second hand 6 cylinder WB ute. It was built by HDT for a customer. It had a bench seat, stroked 5 litre and a column shift auto with a Statesman dash. It was white.
That blue ute looks good, but its not genuine.

**JDT** · 12-03-2014, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by wbute

That blue ute has been proven a fake. It was made from parts from a wrecked Magnum Statesman. The only real Magnum ute was built in 1987 from a second hand 6 cylinder WB ute. It was built by HDT for a customer. It had a bench seat, stroked 5 litre and a column shift auto with a Statesman dash. It was white.
That blue ute looks good, but its not genuine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zfvvl_lD68

Watch this from about 3.20 onwards.

**wbute** · 12-03-2014, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by JDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zfvvl_lD68

Watch this from about 3.20 onwards.

Get on Bertie Street web site and you will find some information there. I have talked with the current owner of the Magnum ute and also know a previous owner and also through family relatives know of the bloke who payed HDT to build the Magnum ute originally.
Can't comment on that video really. Seems likely that if they were not sure if they built three utes that they can't really remember how many they built?
I know that blue ute is not a factory built one though.
http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/s...ght=Magnum+ute

**HK1837** · 10-03-2014, 08:39 PM

I'd build a ute as people at least might understand what the replica is. If you do a van they'll just think it is another modified HQ-HZ van from the 90's. To be honest you are better of doing the van as a HJ, X or Z Sandman replica. At least it'll be recognised and may even hold significantly more value if you go to sell it. I have been toying with the left-field opposite, ie finding a decent HZ or WB ute body and making a HQ Sandman ute replica out of it. The reason for the HZ or WB body is these are easier to find than HJ, they have the mounting points for retractables and have the better dash design than HQ. Plus WB buckets are more comfortable than HQ or HJ-HZ and fit properly in a WB (without floor mods) if I was to use one of those bodies.