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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    So what are all the imported cars Holden are going to be selling in the future? If HSV is not Holden then none of their imports are either?
    Why will the imports not be a Holden? They are now, they are branded as a Holden vehicle. A Holden Colorado is a Holden, doesn't matter where they came from. Unlike the Chevrolet cars and trucks and Bedfords which are not total imports, many were assembled here some with GMH engines and transmissions, but they are not a Holden as they are branded otherwise.

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    When Holden manufacturing ceases in this country will any new Holden models be produced at a standalone Holden factory overseas or will they come from other manufactures and just be rebadged ?

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    If you read the Magnum thread you will see how urban myths become truth. There is only one Magnum ute.

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    If HSV is not Holden. Then Corsa is not, HDT is not, Sydney Special Vehicles is not etc etc. They all attached their own build plates to cars sourced from Holden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    If HSV is not Holden. Then Corsa is not, HDT is not, Sydney Special Vehicles is not etc etc. They all attached their own build plates to cars sourced from Holden.
    To most people an HSV is a Holden, but technically it is not. I can see both sides of the discussion. The government also considers them to be a separate entity/supplier.

    HSV receive the vehicle in semi-finished condition & then complete the car & send it out to the dealers, the same way that they come from the GM-H factory. Warranty is covered by HSV. They are considered to be the manufacturer.

    Corsa (CSV), HDT (post 87) WGR (Wayne Gardner) etc. modify the car after it is sold. The cars are sourced thru a dealer not from GM-H directly.

    To my knowledge SSV & others like them, only supply & fit body kits etc. to 2nd hand cars.

    In the case of imported Holdens, say a current Barina, they are built by GM-Korea & leave that factory to Holden's specs & wearing Holden badges. GM-Korea & GM-Holden are both subsidiaries of GM, so in reality it's the same company. A Holden Barina is a Holden, it's just not built here.

    This is different to say a Holden Drover, which was a re-badge of a Suzuki Sierra, made by Suzuki in their factory, so not much of a Holden except for the badge.

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    Looks like Holden made everything except saddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegmh View Post
    Looks like Holden made everything except saddles.
    Ah Dave, you know they made saddles lol, the company was founded in 1856 as a saddlery manufacturer after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamenco_not_Flamingo View Post
    Ah Dave, you know they made saddles lol, the company was founded in 1856 as a saddlery manufacturer after all.
    I have a Holden & Frost yard stick in my collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamenco_not_Flamingo View Post
    Ah Dave, you know they made saddles lol, the company was founded in 1856 as a saddlery manufacturer after all.
    I thought that comment went over everyone's head. Good pickup General.*****
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    Why will the imports not be a Holden? They are now, they are branded as a Holden vehicle. A Holden Colorado is a Holden, doesn't matter where they came from. Unlike the Chevrolet cars and trucks and Bedfords which are not total imports, many were assembled here some with GMH engines and transmissions, but they are not a Holden as they are branded otherwise.
    Well.... HSV cars are built in a Holden plant and then exported to a HSV plant to be modified. They are still equipped with a Holden issued VIN? Cars that Holden import from another plant overseas and arrive are then issued with a Holden VIN right? They are now a Holden. HSV would need to remove the Holden issued VIN to claim it was a HSV brand car and not just a Holden modified by HSV wouldn't it?

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