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I think you just hit the nail on the head with your last sentence no disrespect intended, to the everyday punter HSV is an extension of Holden pure and simple you can argue about technicalities all day long but at the end of the day it is all in the name Holden Special Vehicles, I find your argument and reasoning interesting but agree to disagree that is the great thing about healthy debates everybody has their own opinion.

Vert true. I suppose to me it aligns with the earlier GMH stuff. GMH (General Motors Holden's Pty Ltd) did lots of stuff like fridges and trucks but only ever produced the Holden car. But then they introduced the Torana, so now they built the Holden and the Torana then the Statesman. So today people call a Torana "a Holden", also the Statesman but really it isn't, it is a Torana or Statesman produced by GMH. The Holdens are the Belmonts, Premiers, GTS's etc. However today they use the brand Holden to cover all vehicle lines from Cruze to Statesman to Colorado, and the equivalent pty ltd is now GM Holden Limited and the business name that markets the Holden brands is Holden. But GM Holden Ltd also own Hummer (GM) Australia and Cadillac (GM) Australia. Does that mean a Hummer sold here is a Holden? Is a fridge built by the Houehold Appliances Division of GMH a Holden? (long bow I know but not that much different from the case in point).

Out of interest Holden Special Vehicles (the business) is owned by Premoso PTY Limited who also own the businesses HSVI, HSV1, HSV Individual, HSV centre and interestingly Holden By Design. HBD is only in SA but the others are registered in many States.